ArmchairOperator556 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I am a new member on the board looking to get started in 3 gun. Just ditched my M&P15 M4 w/EOTech for a Stag 3G. From what I've read, it looks like Tac Optics would be the best division for me. Can someone recommend me a good optic for the 3G? I would like to stay under $500 with a mount. I looked through a Burris Tac30 1-4x at Cabela's and was impressed with the glass. I did not like how big the dot was though. If I end up getting the Burris I would probably get the MTAC as I did not like the push button brightness adjustment. Features I am looking for: - True 1x Power - Illuminated Reticle - BDC Reticle - Under $500 w/Mount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prreed10 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I have a Tac 30 and my only complaint is the center dot. It's 2 MOA and I find it obscures some targets. One MOA would be better in my opinion. I don't use the illumination. Otherwise it is a great scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 MTAC in a JP or LaRue mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalaniLaker Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Burris MTAC +1 Kalani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glock34shooter Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 With all your requirements you really only have one choice. Luckily the Burris Mtac is a good optic. The only problem with the scope the center dot, but it is still very usable. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy223 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 i have an mtac and i love it. it is very quick on close range targets and has a bdc reticle for long range it also has good glass for the price. in my opinion the best optic in that price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airedale Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I just bought a Bushnell XTR 1.5-6. It is very clear and may or may not be the ticket. I have only mounted and test fired a bit. I haven't zeroed yet but my 25 yd plinking groups (3 rd) can be covered with a dime. (I was standing using a pipe gate as a rest.) The scope is about $130 and Bushnell currently has a $30 rebate. My gut tells me it is too inexpensive for a good scope but this thing is really clear all the way through 6 power. I usually use the Leupold AR Scope. It can be found for under $300. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Burris MTAC, TAC30 or Vortex Viper HS, PST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drglock Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Leupold 1.25-4x20 VX-R Patrol or the Vortex 1-4x24 Viper PST I havent used them but have looked thru both,glass is good on both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOperator556 Posted December 21, 2011 Author Share Posted December 21, 2011 Is the Burris PEPR Mount GTG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Is the Burris PEPR Mount GTG? Most people like it, have no issues with it. I had some temperature related dimensional changes with one I tested. Granted 100 degree differential is not common. It may have been an anomoly though. JP, LaRue, Spuhr, Seekins...all great mounts, just pick your favorite and don't look back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben b. Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Might add American Defense to the mounts recs? Mine seems great with TAC30. The TAC30 seems fine in my practice sessions and 1 match. I agree that the center dot could be a bit smaller, but then you couldn't use the bottom of the center dot for 50 yd shots. Made me wander what it would be like with a hole in the center of that middle dot. I have pretty well left the illum OFF, hasn't seemed to help anything yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsydlooknin75 Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 I believe that ill be running a viper PST in a warne mount from liberty optics for 110. Sent from my PG06100 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOperator556 Posted December 26, 2011 Author Share Posted December 26, 2011 How does the Vortex compare to the MTAC in terms of illumination brightness? Anyone have any opinions on the GRSC 1-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 How does the Vortex compare to the MTAC in terms of illumination brightness? Anyone have any opinions on the GRSC 1-4? The MTAC is much brighter. However, the VAST majority of the time, daylight illumination is not needed and at dusk or dawn, the Vortex is sufficient. Don't let that be you only factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acpchuck Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I have a Vortex Viper 1-4x HS (covered turret caps) in a Primary Arms AR 15 mount. Cost on both (used a Midway discount on the scope) was about $500. I am not a fan of illuminated reticles for daylight shooting and like a more traditional (non horseshoe) reticle. The reticle on the Vortex is very quick to pick up on close targets and precise enough that I can hit an 8" steel plate at 400 yards with no problem. Not having looked through a Burris scope I can't compare optics but the Vortex are very, very good. My son bought the Viper PST and a Burris P.E.P.R. mount. I like the more streamlined contour of the HS (and it was a little less money) and while the Burris mount is OK for me it is too big with rails on top. The Primary arms mount is much slimmer and just as good in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59Bassman Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 I ordered a Burris MTAC and a PEPR mount this morning for $450. I'm stoked for it to get here. That was my choice for under $500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOperator556 Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 I think I am going to go with the MTAC and PEPR QD Mount. Found a deal on one I can't pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootfastRunfaster Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Good choice. I have the same setup for my Tac30. I run the top of the center dot as my 100 yard zero. That clears up any problems I have with obscuring small targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairOperator556 Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 Mounted my MTAC and took it to the range for the first time today. Illumination quit working after the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben b. Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Mounted my MTAC and took it to the range for the first time today. Illumination quit working after the first round. Might make sure the battery compartment is screwed down. It may sound obvious & stupid advice, but on my TAC3 what seemed screwed down wasn't really fully there, went like another 3/4" turn and solved my "light quit working" problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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