Western single stack classic/ 230gr--clays

[Recon'sHide]

Greetings and salutations!

I am traveling up to Mesa AZ for their single stack classic, using 230 gr round nose berrys with clays 4gr/coal is 1.25 out of a trojan 5 inch. Now, with 4 grains I am not making power factor. With the elevation and cool temps I am wondering if I should switch powders to solo 1000 especially since Clays 4 grains is at the top of the charts--dont want to chrono a minor!

So any Mesa boys/girls loading clays/230 grainers @ elevation making PF? If so what bullet, weight and coal are you using to make sure PF is spot on?

Thanks & Happy Holidays!

David

[bbbean]

I would never suggest anyone use a load outside published limits but I can tell you that a great many shooters, including me, have to push the published Clays loads by a few tenths of a grain to make major. I ran 4.3 gr Clays with 230 gr MG and Hornady HAP, and run 4 gr Clays with Precision 230s to make pf=175. I have to similarly push the 200 grain loads to make major.

BB

[Dan Sierpina]

I used 4.3 of Clays with a 230 FMJ (Remington, old stock) and made 179 P.F. when I shot the match a couple years ago.

[Recon'sHide]

I used 4.3 of Clays with a 230 FMJ (Remington, old stock) and made 179 P.F. when I shot the match a couple years ago.

Thanks Dan, information is power, and power factor is what we will make!

Thanks,

David

[Recon'sHide]

I would never suggest anyone use a load outside published limits but I can tell you that a great many shooters, including me, have to push the published Clays loads by a few tenths of a grain to make major. I ran 4.3 gr Clays with 230 gr MG and Hornady HAP, and run 4 gr Clays with Precision 230s to make pf=175. I have to similarly push the 200 grain loads to make major.

BB

Thanks BB,

Appreciate the heads up...4.0 grains requires a bump...4.2--4.3grains...off to the range tomorrow for the chrono.

Best regards,

David

[twodownzero]

Mine make major at 3.6-3.7. I'm surprised you guys need that much powder.

[Recon'sHide]

Mine make major at 3.6-3.7. I'm surprised you guys need that much powder.

Hey Tim,

you shooting lead? I am using 230 grain FMJ, coal 1.25 out of a 5 inch barrel. To make PF I need 720fps.

david

[ChuckS]

4.1 Clays at 1.250" with the elusive Zero 230 gr fmj in a 5" Kart barrel gave me about 171.4

YMMV,

Chuck

[njl]

Switch to WST. It shoots much like clays, but has way more room at the top end and can be loaded to major PF without going beyond max.

[sbo76]

230g Zero FMJ 4.7 grains solo 1.260 made a 170pf on the match chrono. The Frontier CMJ's usually take about .2g less to make the same power factor.

[pjb45]

BTW: It is Championship not Classic. The other great match at Rio is the Desert Classic.

I don't shoot Clays, but the temperature at Chrono can vary depending on the time of day.