Shmackey Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Hi all, I posted a few weeks ago when I got a new 650. You guys were really helpful, so I wanted to share a couple of things I found: 1. I asked what could be done to stop the endless procession of primers into (and off of) the ski jump when first trying to set up and dial in all the dies on a toolhead. The LnL doesn't replace a new primer with yet another new primer until the first one is inserted into a case--and I was very accustomed to this feature. When trying to run just one case through all the 650 stations to set everything up, the five escaping primers were bugging me. I figured out how to stop that. All you need to do is remove the large black sloping plastic piece on the very front of the machine that causes the primer feed to advance. It functions a lot like the large cam block on the casefeed. One screw removes it quickly. Just remember to screw it back in when you want primers to start up again. 2. Similarly, if you're trying to run just one case through all the stations, you don't really want cases to keep flowing from the case feeder. I noticed on one of the Ultimate Reloader videos that Gavin had a special metal clip that keeps the pivoting case bushing shelf from moving. I made one myself out of a piece of stiff wire coat hanger. It looks like a gigantic staple. One end fits into the case bushing itself, and the other end sits on the outside of the press to keep the unit from returning back under the tube to fetch a new case. Hope this is helpful to someone out there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
windscreen Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Alternatively, I just put my largest allen wrench in the case feed bushing, which keeps it from swinging over to pick up a new case. It is especially convenient if you have Dillon's tool rack right there, bolted to your press. -Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyPotty Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Hi all, I posted a few weeks ago when I got a new 650. You guys were really helpful, so I wanted to share a couple of things I found: 1. I asked what could be done to stop the endless procession of primers into (and off of) the ski jump when first trying to set up and dial in all the dies on a toolhead. The LnL doesn't replace a new primer with yet another new primer until the first one is inserted into a case--and I was very accustomed to this feature. When trying to run just one case through all the 650 stations to set everything up, the five escaping primers were bugging me. I figured out how to stop that. All you need to do is remove the large black sloping plastic piece on the very front of the machine that causes the primer feed to advance. It functions a lot like the large cam block on the casefeed. One screw removes it quickly. Just remember to screw it back in when you want primers to start up again. 2. Similarly, if you're trying to run just one case through all the stations, you don't really want cases to keep flowing from the case feeder. I noticed on one of the Ultimate Reloader videos that Gavin had a special metal clip that keeps the pivoting case bushing shelf from moving. I made one myself out of a piece of stiff wire coat hanger. It looks like a gigantic staple. One end fits into the case bushing itself, and the other end sits on the outside of the press to keep the unit from returning back under the tube to fetch a new case. Hope this is helpful to someone out there.... He is what I use for these issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnmccoy Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 Very intuitive! Did that seem to fix it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiserb Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 These are great ideas for fixing the 650 XL setup annoyances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnm45 Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 I use one fired unprimed .38 special peice of brass instead of a coat hanger wire, a perfect fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyPotty Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I use one fired unprimed .38 special peice of brass instead of a coat hanger wire, a perfect fit. That is a good idea too. I also like the idea of the allen wrench, I just picked up the allen wrench kit/mount because I got tired of all my wrenches laying on the bench. Lots of good ideas here - on my wire I hang it from the holes in the strong mount, so its always a easy reach, and doesnt clutter up the work bench. The primer advance system is one thing that I think Dillon didnt do right, LnL & Loadmaster both cheaper presses dont advance primers until a case is present. I made that little piece of metal and it works well and takes seconds to put in and out. Its made out of shim stock, and the bend is so you can get it in there better with your fingers. Edited December 20, 2011 by ScottyPotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCGLOCK Posted January 4, 2012 Share Posted January 4, 2012 I use one fired unprimed .38 special peice of brass instead of a coat hanger wire, a perfect fit. yep, that's what I do too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevinj Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hi all, I posted a few weeks ago when I got a new 650. You guys were really helpful, so I wanted to share a couple of things I found: 1. I asked what could be done to stop the endless procession of primers into (and off of) the ski jump when first trying to set up and dial in all the dies on a toolhead. The LnL doesn't replace a new primer with yet another new primer until the first one is inserted into a case--and I was very accustomed to this feature. When trying to run just one case through all the 650 stations to set everything up, the five escaping primers were bugging me. I figured out how to stop that. All you need to do is remove the large black sloping plastic piece on the very front of the machine that causes the primer feed to advance. It functions a lot like the large cam block on the casefeed. One screw removes it quickly. Just remember to screw it back in when you want primers to start up again. 2. Similarly, if you're trying to run just one case through all the stations, you don't really want cases to keep flowing from the case feeder. I noticed on one of the Ultimate Reloader videos that Gavin had a special metal clip that keeps the pivoting case bushing shelf from moving. I made one myself out of a piece of stiff wire coat hanger. It looks like a gigantic staple. One end fits into the case bushing itself, and the other end sits on the outside of the press to keep the unit from returning back under the tube to fetch a new case. Hope this is helpful to someone out there.... I do my setup different i guess. I hand feed in a case to set the powder, etc. Make a dummy for seating depth and crimp. No primers or cases in the machine yet. Then put in cases, pull the hamdle til one is over the primer station, remove case, put primers in the tube, advance by hand until a primer is at the station, insert case, push forward and all is in sync. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) If you want the primer advance disabled temporarly (#1 in OP), just take out the little return spring from the advance arm... jj Edited January 5, 2012 by RiggerJJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdlong1 Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 there is a pretty good video on you tube on how to disable both of these issuses. Check this guy out : these are the methods that I use and they work well. I will say that for load development the LNL is a little easier mainly for the 2 above issues but in every other way as far as I can tell the dillon 650 is superior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueeyedme Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 there is a pretty good video on you tube on how to disable both of these issuses. Check this guy out : these are the methods that I use and they work well. I will say that for load development the LNL is a little easier mainly for the 2 above issues but in every other way as far as I can tell the dillon 650 is superior. That was too painful to watch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wdlong1 Posted January 11, 2012 Share Posted January 11, 2012 what you've never met an extremely knowledgeable and very eccentric person that is into guns and reloading? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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