GlockCanMan Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Why are so many SSP shooters afraid to make a modification to their gun and end up shooting under ESP? They are still using the same gun, same mag capacity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RePete Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 You are allowed to make mods but nothing external, except for sights - no milling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astephenson Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 If I want to shoot in ESP I'll use my ESP gun (9mm 1911). Otherwise my Glock 34 is staying "stock". To each his own. I'm not worried about whether someone is shooting SSP or ESP...I compare my scores to everyone in the "11 rounds at the buzzer" divisions. I ain't skeered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Hello: Because ESP is where the big boys play Thanks, Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurm Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Who says we are scared? Maybe some of us don't need a bunch of modifications to win matches? Seriously though I find I don't need many changes to a stock Glock to make me happy. New sights, grip tape and a bit of a polish internally, maybe swap out a couple of springs. Grip tape instead of stippling allows me to shoot either SSP or ESP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I'm scared as hell. Not sure why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) I'm scared as hell. Not sure why. Prolly cauz you got a scary avatar.... Edited December 18, 2011 by Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I have always shot in ESP, mostly with SSP guns with mods put on them, because I prefer a big gamer's magwell and non-SSP legal trigger work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 I'll run my stock looking Glock in SSP but would rather run the SV in ESP instead of just sticking a magwell on a Glock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 This topic is funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul-the new guy Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 My opinion is most of the people that play just for the sake of playing are happy is SSP then there are a few people who dominate in SSP and are awesome shooters. To me it seems like the guys that want to win and play the game with every adavantage the rules allow shoot ESP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 In some cases the SSP shooter uses the same firearm for carry/protection that he or she uses for IDPA. There may be strong reluctance to modifying their carry or duty weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 Hello: Because ESP is where the big boys play Thanks, Eric So that must make USPSA Limited shooters GIANTS ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 In some cases the SSP shooter uses the same firearm for carry/protection that he or she uses for IDPA. There may be strong reluctance to modifying their carry or duty weapon. Carry guns and duty weapons have no place in IDPA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADulay Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 In some cases the SSP shooter uses the same firearm for carry/protection that he or she uses for IDPA. There may be strong reluctance to modifying their carry or duty weapon. Bingo! AD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehorn Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I think that the competition is usually a little tougher in ESP also. At any given match, half of the shooters in any class in ESP, have already been bumped up to the next highest classification in SSP (much of ESP EX is populated with SSP MAs). YMMV, but it seems to be a pretty common theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankfan79 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I think that the competition is usually a little tougher in ESP also. At any given match, half of the shooters in any class in ESP, have already been bumped up to the next highest classification in SSP (much of ESP EX is populated with SSP MAs). YMMV, but it seems to be a pretty common theme. +1 I made SSP MA fairly quickly but spent a year or two in ESP EX before I made MA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I think it goes like this: Attain SSP MA. Celebrate! Shoot ESP EX and kick everyones ass until there are four other SSP MA's doing the same thing. Shoote ESP EX at a major and get a bump. Celebrate! Shoot CDP SS...er...okay EX and kick everyones ass until there are four other SSP/ESP MA's doing the same thing. :angry: Shoot CPD EX at a major and get a bump. Celebrate! Shoot SSR...LOL!...Oh now that's funny! Just kidding. Who does that? Revolver??? Buy Limited gun and start shooting USPSA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I made ESP MA at a major first and my SSP MA bump was only because ESP MA looked boring at the next major (only 3 shooters) so I shot SSP EX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 I plan on competing in both divisions with the same gun... 4th Gen G17 with Heinie Sights and a .25 cent trigger job. No fear here.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Awesome Chad. Just awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDPMatt Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 Huh, I got bumped to SSP/MA with my G17 plus Sevigny sights and turned arund at the next major match a month later and got bumped to ESP/MA using the same gun.... in my part of the woods there seems to be more competition in SSP but I guess it depends on where you shoot. Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanman Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 If I am going to play in ESP with other 1911's, I WANT my 1911. Gotta love 1911's, if you have not modified it until it does not work that is. sandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chills1994 Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 STI contigency program mainly applies to the 2011/1911 platforms, so ESP and CDP has a financial incentive to..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaTact Posted December 19, 2011 Share Posted December 19, 2011 In some cases the SSP shooter uses the same firearm for carry/protection that he or she uses for IDPA. There may be strong reluctance to modifying their carry or duty weapon. Carry guns and duty weapons have no place in IDPA! Aw, crap. I guess I really *should* modify my Glock In all seriousness, I compete with what i carry. I want to make myself as good a shooter as I can be with what I have before I look to modifications that are supposed to make me into a "better" or more competitive shooter. I already have a lot of fundamentals and techniques to improve on. When my skill level plateaus -- and it's a slow going process -- then I'll think about making a dedicated competition gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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