reichebrown Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 If you were the SO what would you call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted December 14, 2011 Share Posted December 14, 2011 (edited) Nobody would have called anything. Edited December 15, 2011 by Steve Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kali Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) If you were the SO what would you call? If its Vickers count, I would call that a smoking run by Bob Vogel. Edited December 15, 2011 by Kali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) If I was the SO I would issue the correct range commands before the COF began. <pet peeve> Edited December 15, 2011 by waktasz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) What is there to call? Am I missing something? I would first remove my ridiculous red hat and then ask that remaining SO's to remove theirs as well. I would also use the proper range commands. Edited December 15, 2011 by sirveyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I'll venture a guess that he's referring to the make-up shot on the second, in-coming array (the 11th one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Yeah, I knew what the OP was asking. It **appears** that he may want to start another, "I would'a gave 'im a FTDR fer dumpin'!" thread. No...no, really...no,seriously...you would not have even thought of issuing a FTDR. That rule is retarded and is impossible to enforce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Yeah, I knew what the OP was asking. It **appears** that he may want to start another, "I would'a gave 'im a FTDR fer dumpin'!" thread. No...no, really...no,seriously...you would not have even thought of issuing a FTDR. That rule is retarded and is impossible to enforce. I just wish our USPSA club had a couple of those movers. Looks like a real blast. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Looks like a real blast. Bill Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwb01 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Dumping...WTH is that ?? I usually do that between stages or after the match !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Dumping...WTH is that ?? I usually do that between stages or after the match !!! Sometimes I get the nervous dumps before I shoot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwb01 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Dumping...WTH is that ?? I usually do that between stages or after the match !!! Sometimes I get the nervous dumps before I shoot... Aww Man.... I know exactly what you mean !!! Ever have a scare pee come on when its your turn to shoot ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 If I were the SO, I would send my own ass home for not doing my job! This SO is watching the hits down range when his ONLY focus should be the gun. My pet peeve. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prreed10 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Dumping...WTH is that ?? I usually do that between stages or after the match !!! Sometimes I get the nervous dumps before I shoot... Mine are never round though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErichF Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 What's everyone's opinion on double tapping a rearwards falling popper? I have heard rumblings at matches that one should not do that, as frags can be angled back uprange due to the backwards angle as the steel falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 They won't be sent uprange, but they can be sent out of the range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Aww Man.... I know exactly what you mean !!! Ever have a scare pee come on when its your turn to shoot ?? Way too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 What's everyone's opinion on double tapping a rearwards falling popper? I have heard rumblings at matches that one should not do that, as frags can be angled back uprange due to the backwards angle as the steel falls. I will hammer a popper with 2-3 rounds if it is really slow to fall and activate a moving target. Since IDPA forces everyone to shoot the same stage plan, it is important to gain any advantage possible. Typically, a popper/mover combo must be shot in the same sequence by all competitors, thus forcing somewhat similar stage times. Therefore, if I can drive the steel activator a split second faster, I am going to do it. Also, most of us are not waiting for the PING! If my shot looked sketchy, I am going to shoot at it again as fast as possible. Sometimes that results in two hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Some ranges have a rule against double tapping steel because, due to their location, hits on a falling popper could leave the range. In that case it's commonsense to follow their rule. But, if that rule is not in place... as Chad noted... driving steel down can speed the activation of a target the popper is supposed to activate. It can save a second or so, and it's a good tactic if you have the ammo available. As for Round Dumping.... The Rule Book says ya can't dump rounds... yet the Rule book also says that in a Vickers Stage a shooter may shoot as many rounds as they want. Those rules contradict each other. Another Rule comes into play in that regard that says "under all circumstances the competitor will be given the benefit of the doubt". When you put all that together there is no way to consistently and farly call a shooter for "round dumping". One rule says ya can't, another says ya can, and another says the shooter gets the benefit of the doubt. How do you call round dumping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErichF Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 More examples of why I haven't started shooting IDPA, yet. I know that the rules are under revision right now, so when they get it all straightened out, I will give IDPA a shot. As for double taps on steel, I understand the purpose, and have done it myself. I'm just asking for opinions on whether or not you should for safety reasons. Not to change the subject, but we have all shot at some pretty unsafe steel out on stages, too...but what's your option to not shoot it and not be penalized? Garnering an FTE for choosing not to shoot at pock-marked and cratered steel targets is not quite reasonable, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 It would be up to you to bring that damaged steel to the MDs attention before you shot the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErichF Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Understood...but since I'm still relatively new to this, it's intimidating to be "that new guy" that screwed up the match or stage because he was scared of a piece of steel that has been shot at by everyone for dozens of matches for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Chances are that if they've been shooting it for years, then it is safe. However, a polite question to the RO should get you a polite and reasonable response. Wear good eye protection. Fo sho. Even smooth steel shoots back now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Springer Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Understood...but since I'm still relatively new to this, it's intimidating to be "that new guy" that screwed up the match or stage because he was scared of a piece of steel that has been shot at by everyone for dozens of matches for years. I know what you mean about being the new guy. That being said, I was at a match just a few months ago as an observer and saw some SERIOUSLY cratered steel. I was helping to set up and thought it looked really banged up. I didn't say anything and sure enough 2 people (the shooter and her SO) caught some spray from the steel. The SO took some a couple inches from his junk and doubled over. The guy was a pro though. He held the timer up so someone else could take it. The lady doing the shooting also took some lead hard enough to go through her shorts and end up under her skin. The lead was stuck deep enough that even the "pimple poppin" strategy didn't get the lead out. I decided then that I'd rather not shoot the match than eat some lead. I'll bring it up. If it's not removed or replaced I'll find some place else to shoot. Safety first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 (edited) If I were the SO, I would send my own ass home for not doing my job! This SO is watching the hits down range when his ONLY focus should be the gun. My pet peeve. Pat +1 to that.. ZzlLaX Edited December 16, 2011 by GmanCdp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now