First of many questions, I'm sure.

[rayg]

I have received my tapes, Matt Burkett 1-3, and Brian's book. I have watched the tapes through two times. I have read the book ( book is very deep, reminds me of some of the Martial Art teachings I have been involved in) all the way through once and piece mealed (is this a word?) together what I felt the most important points for me right now.

As I mentioned in my first post, after talking to Brian, I have changed my grip and my stance. I am very happy with the results so far.

I am big into lifting weights and working out. I have to stay in shape if for no other reason than to keep up with my students.

I have started working on some exercises to strengthen my left upper forearm and right arm (wrist).

However ( you knew this was coming, right?) When I dry fire now (perhaps 500 times now) No matter how much time I take or how careful I am, at the moment of trigger break, I get a small twitch (don't know a better way to describe it) it seems to go a little up and to the right. Sights come right back into perfect sight alignment. Is this normal? If not, any ideas or comments?

A dime still stays on the front sight and it is almost imperceptible, it may have always been there and I did not realize it, but it is very noticeable to me now. Maybe this is the dry fire version of calling the shot?

Also, I have realized I seem to hunch my shoulders a bit. I think this is just a matter of habit. I am working hard to get that out of my stance. It is hard for me to just relax. Any hints would be appreciated.

Sorry this got so long. I just have so many questions now. I must learn patience.

Thanks,

Ray

[rtr]

Ray I have struggled with twitching, or pulling my shots for a long time, only recently have I been able to overcome it. The way I have done so is to really work on isolating the trigger finger from the rest of the hand when pulling the trigger and when shooting to concentrate as much as possible on just pulling the trigger, largely ignoring the sights etc., just worrying about the trigger pull.

[lynn jones]

try gripping more with the left hand and not as tight with the right. visa verse if your're a lefty. a nice trigger job my be need too.

lynn

[Steve Moneypenny]

Ray,

what is happening is when you apply pressure to the trigger it places torque onto the gun, as the shot breaks there is a releaseof this torque in the oposite direction.

the cure, is to pull MORE strait back into the gun (your pushing your trigger finger to the left if the gun is going right (IE wherever the gun goes yoru pushing the exact opposite)

also more weak hand grip less strong hand will help.... but you would STILL be pushing the trigger in the wrong direction.

HOpe this helps.

what type of martial arts do you do?

feel free to PM/email/AIM me

Steve

[BSeevers]

Have a good shooter watch you. My guess is that you have too much tension in grip and body but I would need to see you shoot. I totally agree that trigger pull is the most important skill and could be the problem.

By the way problems corrected early are easy to fix.

[rayg]

Thanks for the answers guys,

I have taken some of your advise and it seems to help some.

I Think the biggest problem was that I was just choking the grip too much with BOTH hands. I loosened my grip to what I would call very relaxed. Then I tried to hold with the right hand as gently as possible and then grip with the left hand.

I still have a SLIGHT movement but I think that my just be the gun.

I still have to fight the blinking when using live ammo. (getting better every visit to the range) So I am not as aware of it when shooting at the range. I still see it a little when dry firing.

I bought a cheap BB Gun. It has a long hard trigger pull. It has helped me with the trigger pull quite a bit. I figure if I can hold the BB Gun I should be able to do better with the glock.

Again, Thanks for the help,

sensei

P.S. I am a sixth degree Black Belt practicing Isshinryu combat Karate. I started in Viet nam in 1967. I have three schools where either I or my students teach. Thanks for asking.

[eric nielsen]

If this makes any sense...

Care less - when the trigger press starts.

Care less - when the trigger press ends.

Care less - where [as it's happening] the sites go during the press.

Care less - where your shot hits on the target.

Care more - how still your hands are as you work the trigger.

Doing the above, once you learn where the shots will go, they will go there consistently, over & over & over again.

If someone says - 'that sounds a lot like trigger slapping' - they'd be right.