t0066jh Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 (edited) I was just looking at the Area 3 results to see how people I know finished. There sure were a lot of DQ's. Is this typical? I'm going to my first Nationals in September and certainly want to avoid a DQ. I'm now a certified RO so I know the rules. Was there a common occurance that people were called on? Joe 9-Ltd DQ 4-L10 9-Open 4-Production 0-Revo 5-Single Stack Total 31 Edited August 15, 2011 by t0066jh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I'd say that is very non-typical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Those numbers look high. If they were all something like a clear cut AD then it is what it is. But most likely there was a stage or two that guys were getting in trouble on by breaking the 180? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 It appears that revo shooters are a very safe bunch that have great trigger finger awareness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strick Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 It appears that revo shooters are a very safe bunch that have great trigger finger awareness! They can't afford to waste any rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0066jh Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 I was just looking at the Area 3 results to see how people I know finished. There sure were a lot of DQ's. Is this typical? I'm going to my first Nationals in September and certainly want to avoid a DQ. I'm now a certified RO so I know the rules. Was there a common occurance that people were called on? Joe 9-Ltd DQ 4-L10 9-Open 4-Production 0-Revo 5-Single Stack Total 31 Single Stack Nationals had 9 of 352 shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Stoeger Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I didn't see any reason for all the DQs. The stages didn't have anything in them that I thought would induce a DQ. I shoot a lot of majors, so maybe my opinion is different than other peoples, but looking strictly at the stages, I didn't see anything that was a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I didn't see any reason for all the DQs. The stages didn't have anything in them that I thought would induce a DQ. I shoot a lot of majors, so maybe my opinion is different than other peoples, but looking strictly at the stages, I didn't see anything that was a big deal. But Ben, you're anything but average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Harrington Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 I wouldn't say it is typical to see this many DQ's. However, let's not point the finger at ANYONE other than the shooters themselves. I witnessed four of the DQ's, including mine , and each and every one earned it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyoshooter Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 2 of the DQ's happened on my squad, neither had anything to with stage design or the RO staff. one broke the 180 and the other was a dropped gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heckler Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 However, let's not point the finger at ANYONE other than the shooters themselves. I witnessed four of the DQ's, including mine , and each and every one earned it. Very well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0066jh Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 I wouldn't say it is typical to see this many DQ's. However, let's not point the finger at ANYONE other than the shooters themselves. I witnessed four of the DQ's, including mine , and each and every one earned it. Thanks Mitch. Please refer to my original post. I'm not looking for blame. Just reasons......so I could avoid getting DQ'd at Nationals. From the responders so far, DQ's were the usual violations. I've heard it said "there are those who have been DQ'd and those who will sooner or later be DQ'd". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishhunter3 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) I earned mine was looking to far ahead and swung to a target that I ran by, 180 the second I did it I new. first 1 ever and I started in 84. and this match was set with gun handling in mind with a lot of places to break 180 if you lost your train of thought for just a split second.well I did, and the only one to blame is me not the stages or the RO's they all did a great job, great match and I will be back next year Edited August 16, 2011 by fishhunter3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Harrington Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) I wouldn't say it is typical to see this many DQ's. However, let's not point the finger at ANYONE other than the shooters themselves. I witnessed four of the DQ's, including mine , and each and every one earned it. Thanks Mitch. Please refer to my original post. I'm not looking for blame. Just reasons......so I could avoid getting DQ'd at Nationals. From the responders so far, DQ's were the usual violations. I've heard it said "there are those who have been DQ'd and those who will sooner or later be DQ'd". I didn't think you were looking to blame anybody. I just know how these posts can get out of hands sometimes. It doesn't matter how technical a match is or if there are "180 traps". Personally, I like a very technical match. It tests every facet of our abilities as shooters. In the end, it is the shooter's responsibility to be safe. I'm sure you will do just fine at Nationals. You have nothing more to worry about there than you would at a club match when it comes to the possibility of a DQ. Edited August 16, 2011 by Mitch Harrington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
centermass Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 ...I know the rules. That is the best path to avoid a DQ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0066jh Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 I earned mine was looking to far ahead and swung to a target that I ran by, 180 the second I did it I new. first 1 ever and I started in 84. and this match was set with gun handling in mind with a lot of places to break 180 if you lost your train of thought for just a split second.well I did, and the only one to blame is me not the stages or the RO's they all did a great job, great match and I will be back next year Thanks Larry This tells me that if a stage looks at all complicated, good stage planing will be important. I'm shooting with 2 good friends. Hopefully, we'll identify the more technical stage, plan a strategy, and for me, take a more deliberate approach. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgary Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) There sure were a lot of DQ's. Is this typical? Total 31 Single Stack Nationals had 9 of 352 shooters. "Typical" for a USPSA major (Area or Nationals) seems to run around 2-3%. For 352 shooters, 9 DQs is dead center in that "typical" range. Edited August 16, 2011 by jakers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadeslade Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 That's a lot of DQ's. However you slice it. It would be nice to have a data analysis. Shooter experience would have to be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroed Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 That's a lot of DQ's. However you slice it. It would be nice to have a data analysis. Shooter experience would have to be included. Here is a list of classifactions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 That's a lot of DQ's. However you slice it. It would be nice to have a data analysis. Shooter experience would have to be included. Here is a list of classifactions Thanks. That adds a little more information. What do the indents and gray lines mean? Assuming that the outdents/indents are meant to partition the divisions, it looks like: - the first 5 outdented are Single Stack, - the group of 4 outdented are the Limited 10 shooters - the last 9 indented are either the Limited or Open shooters Leaving the middle 13 indented as a mystery. I'm guessing that the first 4 indented are the 4 production shooters because they are shooting minor, and so leaving the middle 9 indented to be either Limited or Open shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) GM 1 M 2 A 1 B 9 C 9 D 3 U 6 edited.. missed a C. Edited August 16, 2011 by DWFAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schroed Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 (edited) What do the indents and gray lines mean?Assuming that the outdents/indents are meant to partition the divisions, it looks like: - the first 5 outdented are Single Stack, - the group of 4 outdented are the Limited 10 shooters - the last 9 indented are either the Limited or Open shooters Leaving the middle 13 indented as a mystery. I'm guessing that the first 4 indented are the 4 production shooters because they are shooting minor, and so leaving the middle 9 indented to be either Limited or Open shooters. Was not trying to break down by division, just by classifications. The two DQ's in my squad were earned. Edited August 16, 2011 by schroed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 GM 1 M 2 A 1 B 9 C 8 D 3 U 6 Equals 30. I thought there were 31? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Murphy Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 How hot was it? Sometimes people get their gearshift stuck on stupid when its too hot for them. I know I do. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkleskiw Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 High of 85 (at the most) with a breeze. By the sounds of it, most were AD's? Knowing how someone was DQ'd is more important than the division they shot in, IMO. I don't think there were any traps or tricks for this match. Not any more than a club match. As long as you kept your head on you were ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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