MarkCO Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 This scope was just released by Burris, in part because the TAC30s were not avaiable. MidwayUSA has the TAC30s in as of now BTW. Anyway, I've been a big fan of the Tac30s having used them for about a year now. I got the MTAC last week and sighted it in and ran a few drills with it. As far as shooting, reticle, glass etc. I can see no difference between the two. The main changes are there is now a power ring on the MTAC as opposed to the whole occular rotating on the Tac30. The illumination dial is rotary, 10 levels with an off spot in between. The Tac30 has a button you have to push for on, hold 5 seconds for off and push repeatedly to move up and then down (or vice-versa) for brightness. The MTAC does not turn off automatically like the Tac30 though. The MTAC is still a 30mm tube, 1-4x. Both wil be available in 2012, but the TAC30 will probably be phased out. Mine is mounted on the rifle and I will have it at RM3G if anyone wants to take a look at it. An MTAC in the SixX line, 1-6x with the CQ reticle minus the top T bar...that is what I am asking for next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 No auto-off? Well that's another disappointment as I've known myself to forget to turn off my illumination many a time on other red dots. I hope they bring that feature back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_r76 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Does anyone have subtensions for the MTAC reticle? Thanks, -Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockster35 Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 I called SWFA today and switched my order to the MTAC. I was told there is still a 2 week wait on the MTAC's. If anyone can figure out the cat tail size, I need it so I can order it and have it here when my MTAC arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Does anyone have subtensions for the MTAC reticle? Thanks, -Randy same as the Tac30 and the AR-332. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_r76 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 Does anyone have subtensions for the MTAC reticle? Thanks, -Randy same as the Tac30 and the AR-332. Ok, thanks. Now, does anyone have subtensions for the Tac30 and AR-332 reticle? -Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted July 30, 2011 Author Share Posted July 30, 2011 I'll have answers on the levers next week if no one else does by then. There is a reticle chart in the box, and it is on the Burris website under the 332 sight. Posting from RM3G, setting up stages or I would post it for you. The middle of the 4 dots and hole are 0, 3.3, 6.1, 9.6, 13.6 moa with the bottom of the center dot being 1.1 moa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
double_r76 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The middle of the 4 dots and hole are 0, 3.3, 6.1, 9.6, 13.6 moa with the bottom of the center dot being 1.1 moa. Thanks much! -Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 The middle of the 4 dots and hole are 0, 3.3, 6.1, 9.6, 13.6 moa with the bottom of the center dot being 1.1 moa. Thanks much! -Randy If you like pictures...: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119196&view=findpost&p=1371166 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose76 Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I worked this up the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockster35 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Any info on the levers yet? My MTAC shipped today from SWFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twodownzero Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Any info on the levers yet? My MTAC shipped today from SWFA. Mine too. What kind of mounts are you guys using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy223 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 what kind of mount are you guys getting for these? mine just shipped also and i need a mount but im on a budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03k64 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Mine shipped as well. I have an American Defense Recon X mount that I'm going to use. Not cheap but not the most expensive either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryboy223 Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 thats what i was looking at getting but i dont understand the recon x vs the recon? wich one should i be getting for this type of scope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 4, 2011 Author Share Posted August 4, 2011 Mine is in a JP 30mm mount. Should have an answer on scope levers tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glockster35 Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Any luck on the levers? I have an new one from MGM For the Leopold CQT/Burris Tac-30, hoping it will work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Holman Posted August 7, 2011 Share Posted August 7, 2011 (edited) I got mine. I like it just fine. The good: Same reticle (almost) as the TAC30 Turrets are redesigned from the TAC30 and easily finger adjustable 10 position illumination with off settings between each level The bad: Reticle illumination is not as bright as the TAC30. It is about two levels dimmer than my TAC30. Turrent is not resettable to zero, which makes dialing in elevation not simple (not a big deal with the good BDC reticle) ----------------------- The zoom ring is not the same size as the TAC30. This means each model of Burris will need a different cat-tail. Outside diameters: 1.745" MTAC 1.554" TAC 1.612" XTR I was hoping for the perfect 3-gun optic... but I see they still dont make it. I am going to give stronger consideration to the Meopta Z-dot now. Until then, I will keep using my TAC. As far as butler creek cap sizes: Eyepiece (rear) size: 1.65" MTAC 1.71" TAC 1.65" XTR Objective (front) size: All models are 1.18" Edited August 8, 2011 by Kevin Holman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krayons Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Getting ready to pull the trigger on one since I TAC30 are hard to get. Used to running aimpoint's does the Reticle illumination show in day light well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Holman Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Getting ready to pull the trigger on one since I TAC30 are hard to get. Used to running aimpoint's does the Reticle illumination show in day light well? Bright sunlit targets = no. You will see a dark reticle. Dawn/dusk/cloudy = decent. These illuminated reticles are not the same as a projected parralax free red-dot scope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 Getting ready to pull the trigger on one since I TAC30 are hard to get. Used to running aimpoint's does the Reticle illumination show in day light well? Yes, and it is slightly brighter than the Tac30. Ran it at RM3G and it worked splendidly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted August 8, 2011 Author Share Posted August 8, 2011 Holman must be running something else because his comments are not true for my MTAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Holman Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 (edited) Holman must be running something else because his comments are not true for my MTAC. I am not running something else. I own the XTR, TAC30, and the MTAC. I'd guess that either: 1. Your MTAC is brighter than mine. 2. My TAC is brighter than yours. Without question, I am using the brand new MTAC which just shipped. The illumination is good, but not as bright as my pushbutton TAC30, which I have had for a few months. I love the reticle. It seems to work very well for me. I wish BOTH scopes were brighter, as in the bright Texas sun, with sun hitting the target faces, the illumination washes out into a dark reticle. It does not have a huge impact on my ability to hit targets, but certainly the red would be easier to pick up when hosing than a darker reticle. I am not knocking the MTAC. I love it. However, I definitely had a different experience than you - as my 3 month old TAC is brighter than my 3 day old MTAC. We are discussing this same thing over on arfcom.... http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_18/543373_Chance_to_save__100_on_new_Burris_MTAC_1_4x24_Update__Deal_is_Over.html&page=4 These pictures below are not meant to show brightness difference... simply the two reticles side by side. My camera will not perform a good measurement of brightness difference due to focus and flash fill issues... but these two pics were taken at max power, and I'd say do a fair representation of the brightness of the two reticles on a medium lit target, like on a cloudy day. TAC30 reticle MTAC reticle Edited August 8, 2011 by Kevin Holman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krayons Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I ordered it this morning, guess I'll find out in a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03k64 Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 I just received my MTAC and it didn't come with lens covers like my TAC30 did. Did anyone's MTAC come with lens covers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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