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I have seen different topics regarding different individual components for different guns, but nothing for a full rig. I have a S&W M&P 9 Pro and am looking at getting my first setup. I used a CR Speed belt, CR Speed mag pouches, and a Blade-Tech holster that a friend let me borrow last weekend for my first match. They all seemed to work great, but I wanted to see what actual users on here use. Also, for the BT holsters, what is the difference between the Black Ice and the Sting Ray? And what does "DOH" stand for/mean, and is it legal for USPSA Production?

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I just got a Ready Tactical set-up from CPWSA for my M&P 9Pro. DOH (drop off-set holster) and mag pouches all set on a CR Speed belt. Feels pretty good to me but I haven't shot much production division.

This is my first production set-up so I can't compare it to anything else. The quality of the kydex holster and pouches are really good.

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The stuff you borrowed are among the most popular. DOH (dropped and offset) is legal for Production. I think the BladeTech sting ray is the description of the belt attachment. The Black Ice is a newer holster design. CR Speed magazine pouches are the best (in my opinion) because they come with different inserts to allow you to use them for a wide variety of magazines (STI, Beretta, Glock, CZ, etc.)

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Thanks for the input, guys. I'm planning on getting the same setup I borrowed, along with the Sting Ray holster, from Shooters Connection. I read somewhere where the Black Ice holster is illegal for USPSA Production, but I think the Sting Ray will be a better fit regardless. Thanks again.

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Thanks for the input, guys. I'm planning on getting the same setup I borrowed, along with the Sting Ray holster, from Shooters Connection. I read somewhere where the Black Ice holster is illegal for USPSA Production, but I think the Sting Ray will be a better fit regardless. Thanks again.

The Black Ice is exactly 1/2" from the ejection port on my glock 34, so its legal (barely). I was warned at the Ohio Sectional because I wear my pants a little low so with a DOH the gun was a little too low as well. I've got to hike up the pants so I don't get put into open!

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Every BT DOH for an M&P that I've seen has put the gun clearly past the 2" rule (thus illegal for even Open division). I had to shim mine to make it legal. Eventually I'm going to replace it with a Ready Tactical DOH...much better design IMO. R,

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Every BT DOH for an M&P that I've seen has put the gun clearly past the 2" rule (thus illegal for even Open division). I had to shim mine to make it legal. Eventually I'm going to replace it with a Ready Tactical DOH...much better design IMO. R,

What is the 2" rule? I looked but couldn't find it, nor was perfectly sure where to find it. Also, overall, is the DOH feature worth it, or is it all personal preference?

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Every BT DOH for an M&P that I've seen has put the gun clearly past the 2" rule (thus illegal for even Open division). I had to shim mine to make it legal. Eventually I'm going to replace it with a Ready Tactical DOH...much better design IMO. R,

What is the 2" rule? I looked but couldn't find it, nor was perfectly sure where to find it. Also, overall, is the DOH feature worth it, or is it all personal preference?

for me with a short body (from past spine surgery), high waist, and long arms a high non drop holster has me drawing practically from my armpit. The DOH feature is priceless for me as it lowers the holster to an easier to reach location for my body build.

Eric

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Every BT DOH for an M&P that I've seen has put the gun clearly past the 2" rule (thus illegal for even Open division). I had to shim mine to make it legal. Eventually I'm going to replace it with a Ready Tactical DOH...much better design IMO. R,

What is the 2" rule? I looked but couldn't find it, nor was perfectly sure where to find it. Also, overall, is the DOH feature worth it, or is it all personal preference?

The 2" rule says that the maximum distance from the inside of the inner belt to the gun can not exceed 2". You can find this in the appendices on the various divisions that spell out the rules for each.

I think the general concept of the DOH is "better" from a speed perspective, and most folks are using some variation of this kind of setup. The Ready Tactical DOH is a better design from my perspective, but it can't be changed later the way the Blade-Tech can (say if you want to use a non dropped/offset hanger and shoot IDPA. R,

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I have been looking at the Black Ice holster. From what I have been told, it is legal with the DOH adapter removed. Is that correct? My friend loves his Center of Mass holster, but they don't have it for the M&P's yet according to their website.

Rob

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If you plan to use the CR Speed mag holders this is what I did to get the right fit for my M&P 40 magazines. After some thought and review of the different shims I went to Lowes and purchased some rubber washers measuring 1/4 X 11/4 X 1/16 and placed these behind the larger shim (non Glock and non CZ/Beretta) and it works perfectly.

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If you plan to use the CR Speed mag holders this is what I did to get the right fit for my M&P 40 magazines. After some thought and review of the different shims I went to Lowes and purchased some rubber washers measuring 1/4 X 11/4 X 1/16 and placed these behind the larger shim (non Glock and non CZ/Beretta) and it works perfectly.

Good info. The reason I went with the Comp-tac mag pouches is that the CRs were such a bad fit. Now that I wanna dump the M&P 9mm Pro and get a G-34 I wish I had the CR pouches.

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if you go to the Blade Tech website, you can buy the "revolution" holster for $25ish, and then purchase the DOH kit for like $15ish, and save a little bit of money. I use this on a g34 and it's legal, and fits nice. The DOH is needed for my big long monkey arms, and I think a little smoother in the draw. If you want to shoot IDPA you can take off the DOH, and if you want to change guns just buy another holster and attach it straight to the DOH piece.

as far as mag pouches, my first 2 are DAA. These can cant outwards, away from the body, and can be mounted "drop" style, which seem to be a better fit. I have 4 CR versa's behind it. They're all adjustable as I have a Lim gun too, just need to change the spacers.

you can also looked at one piece molded kydex pouches, or even make ur own.. However, you don't have the capability to (easily) change sizes for other sizes of mags.

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