Para P18

[Para239]

Hello all. I have an interesting question. I have been reading the forum on the Para P18 extractor issues and fixes. I own a P18 and recently purchased a P16 from a pawn shop. Both of these are 80 series guns with the plunger/spring in the slide. What I have read on the forum posts does not address the 80 series pistols. I checked brownells and indeed found the sleeve, but it is for the 70 series pistols (no notch in the sleeve for the 80 series plunger)and also checked the EGW Extractor again finding it is only made for the 70 series guns. I shoot alot of IDPA and need all parts in the gun as I would get DQ'd in any major match upon inspection for leaving out the the plunger/spring. What I found that is odd is when I went to clean the Para P16 that I had purchased from the pawn shop to shoot USPSA with is a normal 1911 80 series extractor that was sleeved! So do gunsmiths modify the extractor sleeve to work with the 80 series guns? Or does someone else make a sleeve for the 80 series Para P16/18's? Has anyone done this modification to the sleeve if so what do I need to do? My gun runs good but I have noticed that the spring inside the factory power extractor from para is getting weak.....and guess what guys, para will not sell just that spring you have to buy the complete power extractor assembly for around $80.00! What a crock! That is why I would like to convert my gun over! Any help that can be provided would be greatly appreciated guys!!

Thanks,

Ted

[soaringf22]

Hello all. I have an interesting question. I have been reading the forum on the Para P18 extractor issues and fixes. I own a P18 and recently purchased a P16 from a pawn shop. Both of these are 80 series guns with the plunger/spring in the slide. What I have read on the forum posts does not address the 80 series pistols. I checked brownells and indeed found the sleeve, but it is for the 70 series pistols (no notch in the sleeve for the 80 series plunger)and also checked the EGW Extractor again finding it is only made for the 70 series guns. I shoot alot of IDPA and need all parts in the gun as I would get DQ'd in any major match upon inspection for leaving out the the plunger/spring. What I found that is odd is when I went to clean the Para P16 that I had purchased from the pawn shop to shoot USPSA with is a normal 1911 80 series extractor that was sleeved! So do gunsmiths modify the extractor sleeve to work with the 80 series guns? Or does someone else make a sleeve for the 80 series Para P16/18's? Has anyone done this modification to the sleeve if so what do I need to do? My gun runs good but I have noticed that the spring inside the factory power extractor from para is getting weak.....and guess what guys, para will not sell just that spring you have to buy the complete power extractor assembly for around $80.00! What a crock! That is why I would like to convert my gun over! Any help that can be provided would be greatly appreciated guys!!

Thanks,

Ted

http://www.tjscustomgunworks.com/Photos4/1911Shim.htm

i use this in all 3 of my paras and it is my understanding in IDPA that you can convert a series 80 to a series 70. in USPSA single stack you can. removing those plungers just makes it a series 70 pistol, throw in the shim, use the sleeve and you are good. with tuning you dont "need" the sleeve for the extractor but it would be a waste of time and money to do that unless you could do it yourself.

the big reason i do the series 70 conversion is i feel i can get a real good trigger job, easily under 3 lbs. keeping it a series 80 3.5 lbs is obtainable and if i go under that i think the trigger is too mushy.

i also dont feel the para extractors are reliable another reason i changed them, however on some guns they are great, guess on the hit or miss scale i got the miss

[ParaGunner]

You should be able to make a notch for the plunger before you loctite the sleeve in place. Also a 2.25lbs trigger pull is possible with series 80 parts. I did it on a p-14 with C&S trigger pull kit and a Infinity sear spring.