KentG Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 HAAA!!! I have one on order. Found somone who gave me a heads up that a smallish shop in Southern Indiana has them for sale. $700 cash and $750 CC. Has 9 of the black and 4 cammo. Cammo guns have cammo mags. T&J Sporting Goods 3875 Whiskey Run Rd.,NE Georgetown, Indiana 47122 812-366-4921 oh no...... You need one to finally be able to shoot multigun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyNo! Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 I'd like to know why it looks like an AR-15. Other than that, good concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentG Posted June 18, 2011 Share Posted June 18, 2011 I'd like to know why it looks like an AR-15. Other than that, good concept. For me the ergonomics are the biggie. I'm sure the cool factor is part of the reason but I'm so cool already it makes no diff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Could you post a pic of what you did to make it run bulk pack shells? Do you sell booster bushings yet? During testing, the guns did not want to cycle light birdshot out of the box. However, installing a booster bushing over the gas bypass spring allowed the guns to run just fine on Walmart bulk pack ammo (Rem/Fed). Tony Rumore Tromix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norbs007 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 That's cool, good thing I held off on the Saiga. True what was mentioned, why aren't these guns manufactured here? I like the Firebird logo on my lower... hint hint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentG Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) CSS has them Edited June 23, 2011 by tnek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyRumore Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 I got bitch slapped on this forum for posting an "advertisement" in the past. So, NO. I won't post a pic of the gas booster bushing or tell you where to get one. That would be against the rules on this forum. Tony Rumore Tromix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotchkiss Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 It's kind of funny....or maybe sad is a better way to say it....that the Russians are making a shotgun based on a weapons platform that hundreds of thousands of American vets are familiar with. Seems like Colt or Remington or somebody...sheez...anybody..Buehler, Buehler.....would have been making one of these in America YEARS ago. Can you imagine how awesome it would be by now if they had? Indeed. You would think that Colt (well then again maybe not Colt), Bushmaster/Remington or even S&W would OWN this market? Maybe it's simply too non-pc? I forgot about Ruger. If the Russians sell a lot of guns without a lot of backlash, Ruger might get into the business in a few years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotchkiss Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Why is this shotgun legal to import and sell while something like the Franchi SPAS 15 is not? Purely subjective choice by politicos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentG Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Why is this shotgun legal to import and sell while something like the Franchi SPAS 15 is not? Purely subjective choice by politicos? You couldn't run fast enough to give me a Spas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael64 Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 Kinda reminds me of the USAS -12 from back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted June 24, 2011 Share Posted June 24, 2011 I got bitch slapped on this forum for posting an "advertisement" in the past. So, NO. I won't post a pic of the gas booster bushing or tell you where to get one. That would be against the rules on this forum. Tony Rumore Tromix You already have your company listed under your name so why not become a forum vendor and "advertise" all you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Jim sits quietly starring blankly off to the left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted July 2, 2011 Share Posted July 2, 2011 Jim sits quietly starring blankly off to the left Left???? Jim, you never go Left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I happen to KNOW Jim will have one in his hands to play with here very soon... Y'all just be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted July 3, 2011 Share Posted July 3, 2011 I picked one up and it runs perfect with 1 1/8 oz 3 Dram shells.(read bulkpack) It fixes all the shortcomings of a stock Saiga. Mags drop free, last round bolt hold open is awesome. Transitioning from an AR to this is like not transitioning at all. Its just plug and play right out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Its just plug and play right out of the box. ummm.. no. not quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Sure you can stick hundreds of dollars of gehaws on it but mine ran fine right out of the box. Its just plug and play right out of the box. ummm.. no. not quite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotchkiss Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) I picked one up and it runs perfect with 1 1/8 oz 3 Dram shells.(read bulkpack) It fixes all the shortcomings of a stock Saiga. Mags drop free, last round bolt hold open is awesome. Transitioning from an AR to this is like not transitioning at all. Its just plug and play right out of the box. How does it appear from a durability/maintainability standpoint when compared to the Saiga or say a Benelli? I had to laugh at the person that said they did not want their shotgun to look like an AR and their AR not to look like a shotgun. That's primative thinking. If it works and it lessons the transition between both firearms that's a GOOD thing. Edited July 8, 2011 by Hotchkiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 (edited) I cant comment on durability as I only have put 200 shells through it. It seems solid but I have also had Browning Citoris and Beretta O/Us fail from high volume shooting and they are built like tanks. Maintainability is easy, unlike a Saiga the barrel comes off. Its a gas gun so it gets dirtier than a Benelli. The forearm comes off easy, so getting to the gas piston is simple. I picked one up and it runs perfect with 1 1/8 oz 3 Dram shells.(read bulkpack) It fixes all the shortcomings of a stock Saiga. Mags drop free, last round bolt hold open is awesome. Transitioning from an AR to this is like not transitioning at all. Its just plug and play right out of the box. How does it appear from a durability/maintainability standpoint when compared to the Saiga or say a Benelli? I had to laugh at the person that said they did not want their shotgun to look like an AR and their AR not to look like a shotgun. That's primative thinking. If it works and it lessons the transition between both firearms that's a GOOD thing. Edited July 8, 2011 by Duke Nukem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Campbell Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Not quite plug and play. Picked up one this morning, and tested it this afternoon. After I put a Red Dot on it. It ran 3 3/4 dram loads with one faiure to eject. 25 rounds. any Mag. The 3 1/4 dram loads, would run in the 2 3/4 mag, but not the 3 in mag, and would not lock back. With low recoil slugs it was a single shot. Would not even get the cases far enough back to jam. Just slight movement of the bolt and back into battery with the empty case. Lots of potential, easy to handle, need 10 round mags. More testing/excuse to go to the range, needed. Cleaned and lubed, ready for more testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentG Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Not quite plug and play. Picked up one this morning, and tested it this afternoon. After I put a Red Dot on it. It ran 3 3/4 dram loads with one faiure to eject. 25 rounds. any Mag. The 3 1/4 dram loads, would run in the 2 3/4 mag, but not the 3 in mag, and would not lock back. With low recoil slugs it was a single shot. Would not even get the cases far enough back to jam. Just slight movement of the bolt and back into battery with the empty case. Lots of potential, easy to handle, need 10 round mags. More testing/excuse to go to the range, needed. Cleaned and lubed, ready for more testing. Get the Tromix bushing. Mine runs stuff down to 1145fps. Both mags function without issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Campbell Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Tnek, you were right, the bushing makes a lot of difference. I could not order a bushing until monday, so I made one and tested it this morning. Ran the light stuff great, got 40 rouds thru it before I had a stovepipe. Don't think it was the guns fault, I was going as fast as I could, felt that it was different and looked down. I was not as locked in as i should have been. ran the last 10 rounds just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y. Koester Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 What if you had 12? mag.bmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentG Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 What if you had 12? And so it begins,,,,,,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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