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Please look at the following:

http://babeswithbullets.com

Can anyone tell me why this website drags under MSIE and runs like blazes under Firefox?

For that matter, it's not just this one, though I'd like to find a fix if available. http://www.apple.com drags intolerably under MSIE and runs well under Firefox, so much so that I won't even try to goto Apple under MSIE. (It wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't deliberate on Apple's part! :rolleyes: )

Thanks in advance for any good suggestions.

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I run Chrome.

I opened IE8 (to this thread)

I clicked the link to BWB in IE, and then immediately did the same in Chrome.

Chrome opened it waaaaay faster.

I'll try the same with apple's site..

Yep, even with me screwing it up, Chrome was much faster. Apple on IE still isn't done downloading the site as I type this.

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Are you running IE8 or 9 with compatibility mode on or off? The default in IE8 is off.

Depending on the site and what standards they use it can run faster either way. Generally I run IE8 with compatibility mode on so that things display the way the programmers intended if they wrote it for IE. If they wrote it using the actual "internet standards" then it will probably display faster in firefox or chrome.

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Well, the thing is I don't need to fix my own personal MSIE settings; rather, I need to fix the website and/or the host settings so that it will run well under msie elsewhere regardless of compatibility on or off. The huge majority of users out there will just look at you and say "compatibility WHAT? Huh?"

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Well, the thing is I don't need to fix my own personal MSIE settings; rather, I need to fix the website and/or the host settings so that it will run well under msie elsewhere regardless of compatibility on or off. The huge majority of users out there will just look at you and say "compatibility WHAT? Huh?"

Agreed, and that is why I get so irritated at most web programmers because they don't write to the standards, they write for one particular browser...and that causes issues... :(

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Your site is javascript-heavy (so is apple.com). Quickly glancing at your page's source code, I saw 9+ different scripts being called. Those scripts are basically the page's special effects. The smooth sliding of the banner, the highlighting of the pictures when you mouseover them, etc. All those things require the browser to do extra work.

Older versions of Internet Explorer (version 8 or older) are notoriously slow at rendering javascript. Firefox, Safari, and Chrome are light years ahead in speed. The new IE9 is supposed to be much improved, but you need to be running Vista or higher to utilize it. If you're still on XP, then you're stuck with IE8.

If you want the page to run better in IE, you would probably have to deactivate some of the scripts you've got going on. Since you're using Wordpress, I'm guessing they are extra plug-ins that you've installed or they're built into the theme you chose (I'm not sure how you put the page together). My philosophy for building websites is that speed and ease-of-use must be balanced with flashiness. Since the majority of internet users still use IE, it might be worth toning the page's special effects down a little.

Hope that helps.

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Agreed, and that is why I get so irritated at most web programmers because they don't write to the standards, they write for one particular browser...and that causes issues... :(

Actually, more problems are caused by IE's slowness in adopting the standards. I can build a website that would totally pass a standards check but still render like crap in IE. Designers end up having to back-code what they do (dumb it down) and jerry-rig a bunch of stuff in order to make their sites look decent for IE. It's not the other way around.

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  • 4 weeks later...

I has been a while since the first post so you may have made some speed improvements, but it was not terribly slow for me. I usually surf with Chrome also, but I try to test with them all when at work. We know that Chrome is fast, but when you are a developer you have to make it work in them all. Two weeks ago I was fixing a website for IE6 compatibility (what I wouldn't do to find the nail that finally seals that coffin :angry2: ).

Here are some screen shots of the time for that site. First for IE9, then for FF3.6

IE9

bwbtiming1.jpg

bwbtiming2.jpg

FF3.6

bwbtiming_ff1.jpg

bwbtiming_ff2.jpg

I see quite a few images loading that would add up to a chunk of time and the CSS does not seem to be as small as it probably should be. Getting the best speed and asset loading efficiency is not my specialty, but I have worked in that area before.

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