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A couple of weeks from now I’m planning on shooting a USPSA match that has 4 classifiers & since I’m unclassified in revolver I thought that it might be a good opportunity to take the wheel gun out for a spin. However, no one in my area shoots revolver so I have no reference on how to shoot the revolver competitively.

The biggest question (which I kind of feel dumb asking about) I have is this: is it better to shoot DA for the sake of speed, or is it better to shoot SA for the sake of accuracy?

How do you guys do it?

Also, if anyone could point me to someone who makes a good holster for a 681 I’d appreciate it.

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Most if not all the revo shooters have tricked over 625's w/moonclips with very light triggers. DA is the only way to go. Shooting minor or major .357 w/speedloaders will be a handicap but "GO FOR IT!" Have fun. I shoot a 686 in IDPA and enjoy it very much but have not tried shooting revo in USPSA. Hope to sell th 686 and pick up a 625 or 610 and do both.

FWIW

Richard

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I don't find using speedloaders as a handicap myself, but moonclips are faster in general. There are speedloaders such as jetloaders and SL Variant that use spring systems to quicken the process. I was fortunate to try out some SL Variant speedloaders (thanks for loaning them to me COF :D ) and they are great.

As far as shooting I believe that shooting double action is the only way to go. To bring back the hammer each shot is a waste of time and causes you to lose your "master grip" on the revolver.

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Yep - double action is the way to go. 'Round these parts, Carmoney and his thugs will kick sand in your face for even having a spur on your hammer. :unsure::roflol:

Most competitive wheelgunners are plenty accurate shooting DA, so there's little to be gained by shooting SA. That said, everyone's got their own balance between speed and accuracy.

BTW, there are a ton of videos on YouTube. Search "USPSA Revolver" and you'll get an idea how the game's played.

As far as holsters, BladeTech, Comptac, and ReadyTac all make good kydex holsters.

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All Expert/Master & High master PPC shooters use DA only. Especially important when 48/150 rounds fired are from the 50 yard line. The X ring is very small at 50 and matches are won or lost on X count. Forget SA and use DA only.

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I think it actually ruins the experience of owning a good double action revolver, when it's shot single action style. Remember way back in Europe, when I started shooting DA, I was rediculed until I won a lot of shooting competitions in long range bullseye.

Never understood why so many DA shooters, go with too light actions. Just one misfire, can be one too many at any serious competition.

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I figured that DA would be the way to go.

This evening I did some dry fire drills with a controlled pair on 3 marks from low ready – my time was just over 3 sec. on DA & about 5.5 on SA. The last time I had it on the range my shots were right on top of one another in SA, but in DA every third shot or so would fly out into C territory.

While I’m on the subject, what about speedloaders? I’ve been looking at the Safarilands & leaning heavily toward the Comp III’s. Would those be the best bet, or are there better ones out there?

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what about speedloaders?

Safariland CompIIIs orJetloaders. Jetloaders are also available from Power Custom, and are a bit cheaper, too.

You'll need speedloader holders, too. BladeTech andReadyTac make good ones, but North Mountain just came out with their own IDPA-legal holders, and based on the high marks their other revo gear gets, I'd be willing to recommend them even though I haven't personally tried them.

Safariland also makes speedloader holders. They're popular in ICORE and would work fine in USPSA, but if you ever see yourself shooting an IDPA match, be aware that their 333s aren't IDPA-legal, as they don't cover the body of the speedloader.

Tom

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I shoot mostly IDPA but have shot two USPSA matches, both with wheelguns. I have plenty of speedloaders but found out the hard way that I need more speedloader holders. IMHO, the Ready Tactical holders are the best thing since sliced bread.

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I figured that DA would be the way to go.

This evening I did some dry fire drills with a controlled pair on 3 marks from low ready – my time was just over 3 sec. on DA & about 5.5 on SA. The last time I had it on the range my shots were right on top of one another in SA, but in DA every third shot or so would fly out into C territory.

This control of the DA is something that will come in time...mine's been backordered for months but I hear it's on the way. Remember to continuously guide the sights on to the target right up until the shot breaks not just until you start the trigger press. DA will force you to follow through on your shots whereas single action you only have the lock time to screw up the shot.

SA will only be fast on an SAO revolver as the trigger can be held to the rear eliminating the necessity of reset and effectively transferring fire control from the trigger finger to the thumb.

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  • 2 weeks later...

Since you guys were kind enough to point me in the right direction I thought I’d let you know that I shot the match on Saturday and had a TON of fun doing it. I ended up buying some Comp III’s which gave me some smooth reloads. Scores haven’t been posted yet – though I’m pretty sure I took 1st in my division. :devil:

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The buttom line about SA vs.DA, is that if you don't learn how to use DA effectively on a revolver, you may just as well shoot another gun/division. Otherwise you'll never have any luck winning anything serious within action type shooting sports.

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