Kyle O Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I always heard about "tennis elbow", and just sort of blew it off as some minor little thing, but this thing is on fire! Oh yeah, not from tennis, but shotgun reload practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pivoproseem Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Say hello to a Prednisone prescription.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I truly used to hate Tennis elbow until I solved the problem with proper exercise and NO DRUGS Search the Physical training section for relief and hate no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohuskers Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I truly used to hate Tennis elbow until I solved the problem with proper exercise and NO DRUGS Search the Physical training section for relief and hate no more big +1 on PT, stay away from steroids unless absolutely necessary - they're incredibly damaging over the long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear23 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Ice, rest it, stretching. avoid steroid injections here as they actually make it worse. Buy one of the wrap bands, they do help. plenty of good stretches on the world wide interweb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Good advice here. I just developed it recently and have been perplexed on what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KGentry Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 If you can stay away from shots or pills great! I did the exercises and it didn't work for me but a cort shot did the trick and I have never had a problem again. I guess different people respond differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Gene Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I could shoot a 110# bow before I developed tennis elbow, I hate it. I did the strap thingie, stretching, exercise, finally did the shot, it lasted about a week. Best thing for it was massage. It still hurts sometimes, but I can pull a 73# bow again. I hate tennis elbow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Gaines Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I got it bad back in 2007 when I was loading alot and not using case lube. You would see me shooting matches with my elbow wrapped. I feel your pain brother! It will go away, but if you are not careful, it can come right back, when you least expect it! Yeah it sucks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Don't want to violate the rules here but if you can not get rid of tennis elbow use THESE BANDS for exercise and it will go away. Use them sitting, while driving, and during any down time. Tennis elbow will be gone in a few weeks. I suffered to the point it hurt to pick up a pipe wrench and this cured it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle O Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 Mods, please move to different area, this may turn into a fruitful discussion. I can still hate it, but now it's ok to hate it somewhere else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I got mine not from shooting, not from reloading, not from playing racquetball twice a week......but from playing too much Guitar Hero and Rock Band with my kid on his X-Box360! Seriously. As soon as I quit jamming on the plastic guitar, it went away. Too bad I had to retire, I was quickly becoming one of the nation's leading Rock Band players in the over-40 age category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBros Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I had to get the cort shot in mine as well. 20 years of daily archery shooting did me in. The shot helped for awhile and as long as I wear the band it stays pretty much pain free. If I shot my bow alot it starts to bother me again or practicing shotgun reloads lately Definitely better than it was 2 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle O Posted January 26, 2011 Author Share Posted January 26, 2011 The armband, and a steady diet of non steroidal anti inflammatory drugs has helped a lot, but I believe that time/rest is the biggest thing. My particular injury was on the minor side, I have read about tendons becoming completely torn off of the bone. I did some reload practice last night, but was sure to take it easy, and not do it for very long. I also changed my technique some, so that I am tucking my elbow under the gun, so I use more bicep rather than top of forearm for support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 Well I have been reading up on this topic. I do not have tennis elbow but golf. The difference being it is on the inside not the outside. It developed in my support arm. BadChad had a good article back in 2007. Perhaps an update is due? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 I always heard about "tennis elbow", and just sort of blew it off as some minor little thing, but this thing is on fire! Oh yeah, not from tennis, but shotgun reload practice. Read post #30 HERE And the rest of the thread for that matter. Hope it helps you. I lost touch with Dr Kurt a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Got my case of TE in Tae Kwon Do. Demoing to the kids class, I hyper extended my left arm. WOW! so the band and an Acupuncture Treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohuskers Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Accupuncture can be great, as are the cort shots if needed. Didn't realize so many people here have dealt with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExtremeShot Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I had tennis elbow for several years. I wore one of those forearm straps all the time to mitigate the pain, but then last year the pain got worse and wouldn't go away. It was so bad that I couldn't shake hands, couldn't pick up a glass of water, and definitely couldn't grip my gun with enough force to control recoil. My last two major matches were a joke. No way should I have been shooting. My search for relief started with my primary care provider. He looked me over and gave me a cortisone shot. I was pain free for two weeks, then it all came back. He sent me to a specialist. The specialist (orthepedic surgeon) wouldn't see me unless I absolutely needed surgery. So I had to go see his gatekeeper doc first. This doc prescribed oral steroids and sent me to physical therapy. The PT just made things worse. So then a friend told me about Plasma Rich Platlet injections. She had it done on her elbow and it fixed things up. So I went to see that doctor and they discovered that I had some micro tearing of my tendon and that I had some "holes" where I missing some collogen (the stuff that tendons are made of). They did a fat graft (filled the holes in with some fat that they took out of my side), then took out some blood, processed it, then injected it into my elbow. After 6 weeks some of the pain in my forearm went away, but the pain in my elbow was still there and as bad as ever. Next I went back to the gatekeeper doc who finally said I was a surgery candidate and refered me to the surgeon (who happens to be the St. Louis Cardinals surgeon). The surgeon looked me over, asked a bunch of questions, then sent me to another doctor to have a nerve conductivity test performed. The reason for this was that he asked if I ever had tingling in my hand, which I replied that I did on occasion. ...The results of the test showed that I also had nerve damage. He said I had radial tunnel and cubital tunnel and mild carpal tunnel. The radial and cubital tunnel would also be fixed during the surgery to repair my tendon. The mild carpal tunnel stuff would not be fixed. I had the surgery on Dec. 27. After reading the surgery report, it looks like they just removed the damaged tissue and some of the damaged bone. It doesn't appear anything was sewn up (I'll talk to the doc again in Feb). They also decompressed the radial nerve and relocated my ulner nerve. Now I'm in rehab and wearing a splint to prevent my wrist from bending. I still have some pain in the elbow and my rehab lady says that I'm doing too much with my hand. Everything I've read says it will take 4 to 6 months to heal and that assumes you don't continue to use and stress the elbow. I can tell you that all this really sucks! Darren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Well I have been reading up on this topic. I do not have tennis elbow but golf. The difference being it is on the inside not the outside. It developed in my support arm. BadChad had a good article back in 2007. Perhaps an update is due? I followed the Bad Chad plan it worked well for me. I wear the braces when I shoot for a preventative measure. Edited January 28, 2011 by AWLAZS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stage 3 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 I hate hearing about your tennis elbow ordeal. I’ve been dealing with this for a long time myself, started about 15 years ago. At first the cortisone shot would make it go away for a long time. Now it comes back sooner and takes longer to heal, shots don’t seem to work any more. The new doctor's group has prescribed therapy, topical anti-inflammatory patches and a wrist brace, claims wrist movement needs to be limited in order for the healing to begin. I asked them about plasma rich platelet injection treatment, they want to try therapy first as they have had mixed results with PRP treatments. Hope you have a speedy recovery. Just remember growing old ain’t for sissies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle O Posted January 28, 2011 Author Share Posted January 28, 2011 It's still stinging some, but better now. I've been doing some stretches along with mild exercises, as well as the arm splint, and pills. I feel as if I'm making some progress, but dry fire still hurts pretty good, I'm being careful not to over do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driver8M3 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I always heard about "tennis elbow", and just sort of blew it off as some minor little thing, but this thing is on fire! i agree completely. "tennis elbow" makes it sound like a minor inconvenience. it's definitely much worse than a minor inconvenience. i got it lifting weights...one particular movement with a light dumbbell did it. it took about 7 months to heal completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badchad Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 BadChad had a good article back in 2007. Perhaps an update is due? Thanks. I a quick literature review to see if there was anything new out there in regards to treatment since I wrote that article. Not much has changed. Regarding the research more and more studies are showing that eccentric exercise helps, concentric exercise not so much. Eccentric exercise seems to work best on younger males, and worst on older females. I’d like to recommend people see their local physical therapist for treatment, unfortunately most PTs still don’t know about it, and will charge you to do a number of treatment methods which are demonstrably ineffective. Ice doesn’t help, stretching for the most part does not help. Cortisone still seems to help in the short term, but in the long term studies show most are worse, and anecdotally all the horror stories I hear of resulting in surgery are on people that have cortisone shots in their history. On the bright side, the condition is usually self limiting, but because of that, whatever the person happened to be trying at the time it goes away is often given the credit for the cure. This is probably why you hear so much conflicting advice on what to do for it. Since then there have been studies on a few new options that sounded promising at the time but never really panned out. Chad, PT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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