Blackfin2 Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Which powder creates the least amount of smoke and the cleanest in terms of residual. I plan on loading hard casts, and I know there is a certain amount of smake that is going to be generated form the lead and lube. Thanks, Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pivoproseem Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 Solo 1000 seems to have a good reputation for use with lead and moly. Just buy it in larger batches since it does have a bit of lot to lot variation. I get 8 lbs at a time. Which powder creates the least amount of smoke and the cleanest in terms of residual. I plan on loading hard casts, and I know there is a certain amount of smake that is going to be generated form the lead and lube. Thanks, Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 N350. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Nukem Posted December 28, 2010 Share Posted December 28, 2010 WSF, WST, Clays. So you have a slow, med and fast powder for all occasions. Which powder creates the least amount of smoke and the cleanest in terms of residual. I plan on loading hard casts, and I know there is a certain amount of smake that is going to be generated form the lead and lube. Thanks, Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I think that a wax emulsion over a very light LLA coating works great. I have not noticed any difference between AA2, 231, N310, Clays, WST, or TiteGroup. Haven't tried Solo 1000. Has anyone tried AA Nitro100? Clays and N310, in my guns, are just freakishly sensitive to pressure spikes by an increase of only 0.2gn of powder. They are OK if I stay very much in the target/mid-range load region, but other powders are just as good and are not pressure spikey. One thing I have noticed with all my guns is that my .45s are not that sensitive to different bullets of the same weight such that a powder charge that works well with one 200gn SWC also works well with different profile 200gn L-SWCs or even L-TC bullets. However, 9mm and, particularly .40S&W, will not shoot the same groups from lead bullets of a given weight as the styles change even slightly. There is just no way that I can say that a given charge is accurate without reference to gun and bullet, whereas 3.6-4.0gn Bullseye (or AA2) is quite accurate with any 185 or 200gn .45ACP bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 WST and VV310 are wonderful, but have limits on how fast they should go. VV320, then SOLO 1000 for Minor is what I have found best for light to no smoke with lead bullets. One powder that I love/hate is Titegroup. I use it for Bianchi practice ammo with lead 122LFP, but it smokes like a freighttrain! TG not recommended for lead bullets. Hope this is helpful, DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADR Posted January 1, 2011 Share Posted January 1, 2011 I talked to some Cowboy Action guys and many of them like to use American Select powder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 I smoked out the indoor range today with cast bullets & Titegroup. It wasn't my bullet lube either, my loads with Clays and Unique hardly smoked at all. The other shooters were a mite upset... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98sr20ve Posted January 2, 2011 Share Posted January 2, 2011 Can't beat Solo for price and the low smoke, soft shooting and price. Work it up on a chrono because the lots do vary. As far as considering "clean" in a lead bullet combo, well that kinda pointless. The lube will make a mess no matter what powder you use. Hard cast are not always the best answer either. It depends on the pressure created by you load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOT QUITE RIGHT Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Try IMR 7625 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 VV 3N37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewski Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 I've found Clays and Solo 1000 work well with lead - low smoke and very clean (and relatively inexpensive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gohuskers Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 WST, Solo1000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Batt Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 One more vote for WST. I've thought of trying Solo 1000 and Ramshot Competition, but WST works so well and has so little smoke I haven't changed. It does seem to dirty up my guns a little though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharptailhunter Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I haven't tried lead in my 9mm yet, but for my .40 and lead, AA#7 worked great, hardly any smoke. Titegroup on the other hand = mega smoke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I have yet to find cleaner powders than vita vouri, you can shoot almost twice as much with a suppressor with less build up than anything else I have tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A63111 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 VV320 is by far the cleanest powder I have seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor_R Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 WST & WSF. Love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin c Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 My vote goes to N320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noylj Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 PB is very clean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooddog Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 another vote for n320 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bello Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 WSF, WST, Clays. So you have a slow, med and fast powder for all occasions. Which powder creates the least amount of smoke and the cleanest in terms of residual. I plan on loading hard casts, and I know there is a certain amount of smake that is going to be generated form the lead and lube. Thanks, Wayne i use wsf in my 9mm with ww cast bullets and blue angel lube and omfg does it smoke and gag me out i try not to shoot them unless i run out of my extreme plated bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Clays for a fast powder, 4756 slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyreb Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) For what it is worth......My FIL ran a commercial reloading operation for a while. His major account was an indoor range. The owner of the range insisted all his loads to be with Winchester 231 to cut down on smoke. Edited due to poor spelling. Edited January 27, 2011 by Kyreb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ring Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 N-320 is the cleanest Solo 1000 not far behind WST can be clean but there is no published data for it with 9mm jacketed or cast that I could find. IMO, you don't need to use really fast powders like N-310 or Clays in 9mm. Lead bullets already shoot very softly with N-320 or Solo 1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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