old shooter Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 I can't believe that 3 of the Republican Senators didn't vote for the repeal of the AWB. Open and Unlimited shooters could have benefited from a small reduction in the price of mags, I think. So much for my pistol gripped, removable mag 10/22 "assult weapon". I would like to put a threaded weight on the bbl but the Ban prevents this. And don't even get me started about the "Gun Show LOOPHOLE" Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 The senate has added a rider to the lawsuit bill. It will still have to pass the house now and I do not think that will happen. CNN has quoted Bush as saying he wanted to sign a clean bill without any riders so he may not sign it. Here is the CNN story: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/03/02/...guns/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrod Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Here is a much more informative link: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...congress_guns_9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
short_round Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Click on the following senate voting record to see how your Senators voted. Shame on any of us who voted for any of the Senators who voted "Yea" for this. Especially the Republicans. I hope we let them know this sucks and that we aren't voting for them again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Two of the "yea" votes were from Indiana If I get responses to the letters I sent via email, I'll post them here. I'm curious if Sedro has a response to this issue and if they sent any correspondence regarding the matter to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTerry Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 The Senate rejected the bill 90 -8. The gun manufacturers don't get the immunity they were seeking but we "may" have seen the end of the AWB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpolans Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 I can't believe that 3 of the Republican Senators didn't vote for the repeal of the AWB. Open and Unlimited shooters could have benefited from a small reduction in the price of mags, I think. So much for my pistol gripped, removable mag 10/22 "assult weapon". I would like to put a threaded weight on the bbl but the Ban prevents this. And don't even get me started about the "Gun Show LOOPHOLE" Mike Technically, it wasn't to repeal the AWB, it was a bill to protect gun manufacturers from lawsuits. Unfortunately, a couple bad amendments were added, including an amendment to extend the AWB, so it was killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 I'm confused, the newstories linked above say the bill passed, but I got an email from my GOA affiliate saying "S.1805 Monstrosity dead" What gives? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
short_round Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 rtr, The overall Bill was S.1805 that protects firearms manufacturers from liability lawsuits when their guns are used in crime. This is good. However, there were two amendments added S.Amdt 2637 which extends the Clinton Ban 10 years and S.Amdt 2636 which closed the "gun show loop-hole." These amendments were voted on to be added to S.1805. The link I posted shows who voted to add S.Amdt 2637 to S.1805. This is bad. The addition of the amendment to extend the Clinton Ban basically made the supporters of the original bill abandon it. Hence the 90-8 vote to reject the overall bill. The Democrats basically were able to kill this Bill by adding an amendment to it that the original supporters did not want - the extension of the Clinton Ban. The final choice was accept lawsuit protection and accept 10 more years of Clinton Gun ban or reject both. PhilTerry is right. There is still a chance that the AWB will expire in September now. However, expect to see firearms manufacturers continue to cover their behinds. STI apparently is not shipping to California for liability reasons. This will probably continue now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Short Round has it right (excellent summary). I was very upset early this afternoon when the amendments were added to S.1805. S.2637 passed 52-48 with the help of the Indiana Senators. ARGH! When I learned of this, I was upset both because it got added and because no one took me seriously when I warned people it might happen. Then late this afternoon I learned that the newly amended S.1805 failed miserably, ostensibly because of the amdendments. Overall, I think it's a victory because it shows that it's unlikely that either house will be able to pass a bill that would repeal the sunset of the AWB. It's a shame to lose S.1805, but in reality we need far more comprehensive tort reform and such a law was not even a very good bandaid. In addition, many states have passed or will pass similar laws, so a Federal isn't crucial (in my opinion), especially since the courts themselves are dismissing the suits for the most part. The extension of the AWB is the true evil we have to FIGHT. We dodged a bullet with all of our names on it today. DO NOT GET COMPLACENT. Keep contacting your legislators and reminding them how you feel. Write letters, send FAXes, call on the phone, and e-mail! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 The extension of the AWB is the true evil we have to FIGHT.We dodged a bullet with all of our names on it today. DO NOT GET COMPLACENT Yeah, keep it in mind. We LOST the Senate AWB vote, despite our efforts. Fifty-Two Senators said "Screw You". If anybody thinks they'd vote any differently on a straight "Renew the AWB" bill, wake up and smell the Maku Mozo. The only hope is the House or two Senators switching sides. Odds of that?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Political Science 101... " Give and take is the key ingredient in getting legislation passed in this country" Senate Majority Leader William Frist. " I wonder when I'll get...instead of getting taken" Law Student Chuck DiSalvo It isn't over yet...call your Congressman/Congresswoman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3quartertime Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 My letters to the embarassing senators from Indiana were fairly tame. I knew that Evan Bayh was going to follow lock step with the left. He's a moron and idolizes Klinton. ( not sure which one he want to be like most thou...) I'm very disappointed in Richard Lugar. I've foolishly voted for him in the past. He's very old and I hope doesn't seek office again, but if he does I'll activily seek to disuade his supporters. Like BigDave I'll post the response letters from these two if I recieve any. But after they read my follow-up to the vote letters I doubt I will. Anyone wanna run for the senate from Indiana??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 I looked at the list only to find that both my Senators voted "Yea"!!! I was shocked I'm going to write Sen. Boxer & Sen. Feinstien and tell them just how dissapointed I am in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycanthrope Posted March 4, 2004 Share Posted March 4, 2004 You were shocked about Feinstein and Boxer? Those two are an anti as they get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted March 4, 2004 Share Posted March 4, 2004 I hope that comment was tongue in cheek... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPSCDRL Posted March 4, 2004 Share Posted March 4, 2004 You were shocked about Feinstein and Boxer? Those two are an anti as they get. Maybe the emoticon was too small and you missed it. I sent letters to both of the Senators from my state of Massachusetts concerning these bills as well. I expect about the same response as Warpspeed. (sound of crickets chirping) Hello! HELLO!!! Taxation without representation anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilTerry Posted March 4, 2004 Share Posted March 4, 2004 Taxation WITH representation isn't at lot better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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