wildbill Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 what type of powder besides bullseye should i go with for 230gr fmj load to shoot/IDPA and powder charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas Rebel Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 4.2 grains of WST gives around 720 fps in my Para. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gun Geek Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Bill: Try either Clays or Titegroup. Both are clean burning, meter well and are reasonably priced. My Hodgdon manual gives the following: TG 4.0gn 744fps (Start) 4.8gn 855fps (Max) Clays 3.5gn 716fps (Start) 4.0gn 793fps (Max) I shoot 4.1gn Clays over a 200gn coated RNSWC for 850fps from a 5" Kimber. I need 825fps to meet IDPA power factor (165). I'm thinking of switching to Titegroup - it can power any bullet you want in 9mm and 45ACP cartridges, as well as the occasional 380. Only have to have one powder around the bench. Geek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 4.2 of Viht N310 with a Montan Gold CMJ 230gr. Makes about 170 pf. Been using it for about 30K rounds now, and love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Cazes Posted February 25, 2004 Share Posted February 25, 2004 Try Winchester WST powder.....You'll Like it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Burwell Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 3.5 Red dot. very low recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSEMARTIN Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 With a 230 RN, I use 4.6g of WST at an OAL of 1.246. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayonaise Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I ran these Rainier 230gr Plated OAL 1.250" Mixed brass W231 5.3gr More recently 5.6gr of U.Clays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPSCDRL Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I use 8.4 grains of Blue dot under a Zero 230 grain ball ignited by a Win large pistol primer. Works well for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockton Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 3.8gr Clays under Precision 230gr RN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 230 gr Montana Gold CMJ (There is a difference in charge between jacketed, plated, and lead bullets.) 4.0 gr Hodgden Clays 1.255" OAL 0.469" crimp with Lee Factory Crimp Die Winchester primers Mixed brass Averages 735 fps out of my 5" Kimber which works out to 169 PF (On a 75 degree day, about 85% humidity, about sea level, with no special chrono procedures like tipping up the barrel before each shot.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n2299 Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 For IPSC Standard, I basically use the same load, ie, bullet, OAL, crimp as vincent except I need 4.1gr of Clays to make major(173PF) out of my Valtro. While I have never chrono it, 3.7gr of Clays with the same OAL and crimp has worked out great for plinking with my 1911s and 625. This load is accurate and feels very "soft". Note: the brass gets a little dirty compare to Clay's major load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerT Posted March 12, 2004 Share Posted March 12, 2004 230 gr Montana Gold CMJ (There is a difference in charge between jacketed, plated, and lead bullets.) 4.0 gr Hodgden Clays 1.255" OAL 0.469" crimp with Lee Factory Crimp Die Winchester primers Mixed brass Averages 735 fps out of my 5" Kimber which works out to 169 PF (On a 75 degree day, about 85% humidity, about sea level, with no special chrono procedures like tipping up the barrel before each shot.) I never relized how much of a difference there is between jacketed and plated bullets. With the same charge, my velocities with a plated bullet were about 20-40 fps faster. Time to start working up another load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sac Law Man Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 Winchester 231 powder 405 grains.......728 FPS Universal Clays 5.4 grains.........714 FPS Red Dot 4.1 Grains...........760 FPS 231 with 4.5 is my favorite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted March 14, 2004 Share Posted March 14, 2004 4.3 gr. of Tightgroup with a 230 Rainier. OAL 1.260" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek45 Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Clays or WST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penny Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 IMO, Win231 is a bad idea for 230 JRN. OK for lead. Even though the reloading manual lists a load for that combo, there can be very sharp pressure spikes resulting in blown cases. Also, lots of inconsistency with PF based on position of powder in the case and result flash/overpressure. At the time, I was trying to make 175 major PF, and had lots of velocity fluctuations with 5.4 gn 231 + Star 230 JRN., 1.250 OAL. It's my understanding that one of the reasons Titegroup was developed was for cowboy .45colt loads because the SASS shooters were blowing up guns with 231 loads. I spent a lot of time talking to people at Winchester. One guy told me about the pressure issue with the jacketed 230s and suggested WSF or 540 at the time. No one else would admit to any problem and after I sent pages of various data -- powder charges, case weight, bullet weights, OAL, chrono'd velocities, etc -- I got a letter back from Winchester telling me that I was incompetent at reloading. So.... be careful with 231. Penny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 I was just chrono'd at the WA state IDPA match. 4.0gr of Clays = 167PF I'm gonna bump it to 4.1gr for my next loads. (Mont.Gold 230gr FMJ, P14.45 w/ 5" Kart barrel, Winchester LP primers) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek45 Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 I was just chrono'd at the WA state IDPA match.4.0gr of Clays = 167PF I'm gonna bump it to 4.1gr for my next loads. (Mont.Gold 230gr FMJ, P14.45 w/ 5" Kart barrel, Winchester LP primers) What did they do? Did they let you shoot the match? just wondering . . . Edited to say, I'm a dumbshit for not reading you post better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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