WildWest N AZ Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 Not sure if I put this in the correct area? Was wondering if anyone has been having failure to fires with WSP primers? Ive had seven out 5 hundred so far, and was talking with another fellow at local match who has had a failure to fire w/ WSP's? I know let me 1st say that its not lights strikes due Ive alway ran these primers with out issue. I deloaded the bad ones and tried three diff times to get them to go off, with know such luck? Id say after three strikes its not gonna go off. Anyways just curies to see if anyone else has had the same problem? I am still waiting to hear back from Winchester in reqaurds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I've shot a crapload of WSP's and never had a problem with them. I was thinking high primers until you re-shot them. Just for giggles and grins, the next time you have one of them not go boom try it in a different gun. Not saying that you don't know what you are doing... just curious. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie j Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I shoot thousands and thousands of wsp, the only misfires were high primers. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 While it seems unlikely, you could just have a bad batch. Call them and give them the lot# etc off of the packages(You do keep them all right?). They might be having a problem with a batch. I know WSP are usually what everything else is compared to for quality, but for the record the ONLY primer I have ever found to be defective right out of the box was a Winchester. It was not perfectly round and was jamming up my primer tubes. So they are not perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted November 6, 2010 Share Posted November 6, 2010 I have shot many sleaves of WSRP and WSP no problem " untill" lately I have had a problem with last years run, and I load on a 1050 so high primers is not normaly a problem. I have taken to loading FSP for my match loads with my 38 super limited gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWest N AZ Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 Yep Ive still got the ones that didt go bang, and thats what strange Ive ran thousands of WSP's over the years with out failure. I figured since Ive never had light strikes before why would it happen now? Not seated to high they are pushed in the pocket pretty as you please. Ill try the ones that didnt fire after 3 attemps in another pistol just to see what that turns up? I left Winchester a message thursday the 4th with my info and lot #'s, and still havent heard a peep from them! I first thought it was me but when I talked with my bud and he had same problem as me I thought ok maybe a bad lot or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 Are you using a striker fired handgun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calishootr Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) one lil tidbit i heard that our host Mr. Enos say once was to actually look at the primers BEFORE you pick em up in a primer tube to see if they actually have priming compound in em, which i thought was a no brainer, because the stuff is spread into the cups like peanut butter when its wet...buuuuut i started to look at em, and lo an behold i actually did find one that was empty/void of any priming compound(go figure) ive been loading for nearly 30 yrs now and i have only come across the one empty primer, my FTF are usually from 1. a broken firing pin(only once) 2. high primers on many times loaded brass(the usual culprit) also how they are stored can cause problems, high heat and or humidity can cause premature primer degredation im told Edited November 8, 2010 by calishootr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWest N AZ Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 Striker fired handgun yep. ran them through a different Glock yesterday to see if they would fire? One did go off but the striker got very stuck in the primer so much so that I had to take the gun apart to get the case out. Whats most odd is that strikes the pin leaves on these primers is nothing like what a glock struck primer resembles or any pistol struck primer Ive seen????? Very odd results are coming up for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Striker fired handgun yep. ran them through a different Glock yesterday to see if they would fire? One did go off but the striker got very stuck in the primer so much so that I had to take the gun apart to get the case out. Whats most odd is that strikes the pin leaves on these primers is nothing like what a glock struck primer resembles or any pistol struck primer Ive seen????? Very odd results are coming up for sure When was the last time you cleaned out the striker assembly? Stock fring pin and springs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitman Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 A combined 20,000 last year without a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagi Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 knock on wood. never had a misfire with wsp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaredr Posted November 9, 2010 Share Posted November 9, 2010 fwiw, several years ago i had a case of WSP that had about half a dozen bad primers, i.e. primers that were positively seated and would not go off after multiple strikes from different handguns. at the time, I just chalked it up to bad luck and moved on, but from then on I started keeping my primer lot # with my load data (actually, printed out my load data on an avery label and then stuck the label on the back of the winchester primer cardboard sleeve with the lot # on it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildWest N AZ Posted November 10, 2010 Author Share Posted November 10, 2010 I clean the striker ect at min every 1k or so, and check replace springs as needed. One gun is stock and other is not. Heard back from Winchester today and was very pleased to see that they are concerned enough to pay for me to ship the primers and some of my unfired ammo to them to take a look at. I figured they might just blow me off, but it is nice to see that a few companies care about little guys still these days! will post update when I hear back from Winchester, WWNAZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 one lil tidbit i heard that our host Mr. Enos say once was to actually look at the primers BEFORE you pick em up in a primer tube to see if they actually have priming compound in em, which i thought was a no brainer, because the stuff is spread into the cups like peanut butter when its wet...buuuuut i started to look at em, and lo an behold i actually did find one that was empty/void of any priming compound(go figure) ive been loading for nearly 30 yrs now and i have only come across the one empty primer, my FTF are usually from 1. a broken firing pin(only once) 2. high primers on many times loaded brass(the usual culprit) also how they are stored can cause problems, high heat and or humidity can cause premature primer degredation im told Good point regarding a check of each primer for compound and anvil. Easy enough to do while situating the primers in a flip tray. Takes just a second to do. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Also ....check your striker for burrs, right at the ledge/cut out where the safety plunger goes by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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