ak47traxx Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I just replaced my springs and followers in my P16 mags and not the last round doesn't feed right. It hangs up half way, half in the mag, half on the ramp. The slide locks back too, if I hit the slide release, then it feeds in with no problem. Any ideas how can I fix this problem? Thanks, Bruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirpy Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Having the same problem...hope someone chimes in with a possible answer. I am loading to 1.2 OAL and it is 100% otherwise but sort of defeats the 21 reloadable thing. Richard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak47traxx Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 My OAL is a little under that. Around 1.18 best I recall. I've tried both lead and jacketed bullets, so I don't think it's ammo related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m134b Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Did the gun run fine before the magazines were rebuilt? Is the slide locking back? If so then the followers are engaging your slide stop too soon, remove material from the ledge that engages the slide stop. your feed angle may be different on the new followers as well, if so, you can reprofile without too much trouble. Hope this helps, can't really offer more without looking at the gun/mags in hand. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlee14 Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Since your bullet lengths are not too long and it is happening on several types of bullets, my thought is that the slide lock is being engaged by the follower by itself; as opposed to being bumped by the bullets or your hand. See if the new follower has a higher slide lock ledge than previously. Also possible that the new spring has a stronger tilt upward on the front of the follower thus engaging slide lock earlier than necessary. Adjust as necessary so that it does not engage so early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooting for M Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Some of us at work got a smoking deal on some P-16s. They all had the same problem. I took a little of the top of the "ledge" that engages the slide stop and no more problems. I put a small detent on the slidestop itself as well for a little insurance. I think my buddy has put a couple thousand through it since and no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak47traxx Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Thanks for the tips everyone, now if 5 o'clock would get here I could go home and try this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LT45 Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 The only problems I've ever had with my P16 involved the slide lock. There are 2 problems. 1) The follower hitting the slide stop and changing the feed angle. Either remove a bit of the follower that engages the slide stop or remove some material from the slide stop where it engages the follower. I modified all of my mags, but I still had a few jams. It wasn't until I reshaped the slide stop that it became 100% 2)The slide stop actually got pushed out a bit and locked the slide up pretty darn tight. So adding a larger detent for the plunger to mate with solved the problem. No more death jams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrf Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I just sent three new mags back to Para (p1640) because the followers were sticking. My para is 8 years old, never jams, the original mag runs great, but I had trouble with the new ones right off the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMEDIC Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I just built my new mags, Para mag tubes, dawson spring, baseplate and +1 followers and I experienced this issue yesterday (first time shooting gun). When you state take a little off the ledge on the follower that engages the slide stop, I just want to confirm this fixes the issue by allowing the slide to lock back once empty still right? A friend said he did this on his STI to make his slide not lock back and I dont want that to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMEDIC Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 Good info LT45. I just filed on the ledge of the follower causing this issue and it fixed my issue. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 How about last rnd standing straight up slide not locked back? dawson pads stock spring. the pad package says to use extended springs. web sight says it can use stock springs. I orderd the extended springs, am I going in the right direction ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaGunner Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 I have users stock mag springs and ISMI 140mm para mag springs with no issues. I also run DP mag extensions and factory follower. Is the round standing up in the mag or in between the slide and barrel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juan Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 between slide and barrel the rim is at the very end of the feed lips, still in the mag and the nose at the top of the chamber. only the last rnd, and not all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammer1911 Posted November 25, 2010 Share Posted November 25, 2010 Anyone have pics or diagrams? I would like to see what I should be doing before I start removing that which I can not put back. Thanks for any info. BTW Happy Turkey day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak47traxx Posted November 25, 2010 Author Share Posted November 25, 2010 I took a couple coils off the spring and took some fine steel wool to the followers. Seems to have fixed the problem. Still testing them but so far so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMEDIC Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 Where can one get stock para followers for a P16? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaGunner Posted April 11, 2011 Share Posted April 11, 2011 (edited) Where can one get stock para followers for a P16? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Try Brownells for stock Para followers. Dawson Precision also has modified Para followers. Edited April 11, 2011 by Roy Hess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMEDIC Posted April 12, 2011 Share Posted April 12, 2011 Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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