Any future USPSA gun classification changes?

[lee blackman]

I just came back to USPSA this year after nearly 10 years to see there are a few new things. The biggest being a few new classes. I know my memory isn't completely accurate, but I don't remember seeing Production? I just remember open, limited, and revolver. Anyway I have a few questions if you guys who read the new rule book:

Is open still the only place a compensated or ported barrel gun with iron sights can play?

Is there any place for a revolver with more that 6-shots?

[ac4wordplay]

Is open still the only place a compensated or ported barrel gun with iron sights can play?

Yes. Comp/port --> Open

Most participants would likely encourage you to consider adding an optic to your comped gun - you'd be at a competitive disadvantage shooting it (with iron sights) against guys who use both a comp and an optic (everybody in Open). Check your mag capacity too - if it's less than 22 to 28 (depending on caliber) you're at a competitive disadvantage (again). None of this necessarily means you'll have less fun (shooting Open with the gun as is)...

Is there any place for a revolver with more that 6-shots?

I believe so --> Limited 10 (anybody want to confirm or correct?)

Welcome back.

ac

Edited August 19, 2010 by ac4wordplay

[Chills1994]

I think you mean division.

[Gary Johnson]

Both of the guns you describe would be placed in open division.

[Carmoney]

I believe so --> Limited 10 (anybody want to confirm or correct?)

Yep, you can shoot a 7- or 8-round revolver in L-10 or Production.

You can shoot a gun with higher capacity in Revolver Division (as long as it meets the other equipment criteria--(basically, no ports/comps or optical sights)--you just can't fire more than 6 shots between reloads.

[Skydiver]

I believe so --> Limited 10 (anybody want to confirm or correct?)

Yep, you can shoot a 7- or 8-round revolver in L-10 or Production.

You can shoot a gun with higher capacity in Revolver Division (as long as it meets the other equipment criteria--(basically, no ports/comps or optical sights)--you just can't fire more than 6 shots between reloads.

Good that you raised that point. I always wanted to ask about that. So for the classifier CM09-12: Any Given Sunday, can a shooter shooting in the Revolver division shoot all 4 targets without reloading and not get bumped to Open? (This classifier does not have a mandatory reload.)

http://uspsa.org/classifiers/09-12.pdf

[steel1212]

I believe so --> Limited 10 (anybody want to confirm or correct?)

Yep, you can shoot a 7- or 8-round revolver in L-10 or Production.

You can shoot a gun with higher capacity in Revolver Division (as long as it meets the other equipment criteria--(basically, no ports/comps or optical sights)--you just can't fire more than 6 shots between reloads.

Good that you raised that point. I always wanted to ask about that. So for the classifier CM09-12: Any Given Sunday, can a shooter shooting in the Revolver division shoot all 4 targets without reloading and not get bumped to Open? (This classifier does not have a mandatory reload.)

http://uspsa.org/classifiers/09-12.pdf

Revolver division can only FIRE 6 shots with out a reload. The reload is irrelevant really. If you fire 7 shots in revo division welcome to open.

[Skydiver]

I believe so --> Limited 10 (anybody want to confirm or correct?)

Yep, you can shoot a 7- or 8-round revolver in L-10 or Production.

You can shoot a gun with higher capacity in Revolver Division (as long as it meets the other equipment criteria--(basically, no ports/comps or optical sights)--you just can't fire more than 6 shots between reloads.

Good that you raised that point. I always wanted to ask about that. So for the classifier CM09-12: Any Given Sunday, can a shooter shooting in the Revolver division shoot all 4 targets without reloading and not get bumped to Open? (This classifier does not have a mandatory reload.)

http://uspsa.org/classifiers/09-12.pdf

Revolver division can only FIRE 6 shots with out a reload. The reload is irrelevant really. If you fire 7 shots in revo division welcome to open.

Conceptually, I agree. But which rule do you cite for the reason to moving to open:

The closest I could find was Appendix D6.9 as written says:

Maximum ammunition capacity

No, maximum of 6 rounds fired before reload

So if the shooter fired 7, and then reloaded, yes move to open. But for a single string, no reload required stage?

[spanky]

That tells me you have to reload after 6 rounds regardless, otherwise you do not meet the specifications for the division.

[ac4wordplay]

Both of the guns you describe would be placed in open division.

Really?

[Nik Habicht]

I believe so --> Limited 10 (anybody want to confirm or correct?)

Yep, you can shoot a 7- or 8-round revolver in L-10 or Production.

You can shoot a gun with higher capacity in Revolver Division (as long as it meets the other equipment criteria--(basically, no ports/comps or optical sights)--you just can't fire more than 6 shots between reloads.

Good that you raised that point. I always wanted to ask about that. So for the classifier CM09-12: Any Given Sunday, can a shooter shooting in the Revolver division shoot all 4 targets without reloading and not get bumped to Open? (This classifier does not have a mandatory reload.)

http://uspsa.org/classifiers/09-12.pdf

See rule 6.2.5.1:

6.2.5.1 However, if a competitor fails to satisfy the equipment or other requirements of a declared Division during a course of fire, the competitor will be placed in Open Division, if available, otherwise the competitor will shoot the match for no score.

[mhs]

The search function can be your friend.

[lee blackman]

Ya, I shoot for fun so its ok if I'm in open competing with the race guns. When it boils down to it, I just wanna shoot, and compete with myself. Though with the amount of production guns available with porting, I'm really surprised there isn't a division for them. Like a limited-ported division. But I'll keep shooting. I actually would like to eventually put a bar-sto unported barrel in my G24C, and make it limited legal, and actually do a couple of qualifiers just so I can see where I stand nationally, but that will be after I get better. Its amazing how much your fine motor skills deteriorate after not shooting alot for an extended period of time. Its coming back though.

Thanks for the welcome back

Probably another topic issue, but wow, when did Julie Goloski get married. She's now Julie Golob.