jenlu Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) Shoot'n Score It (SSI) is a web based and free match administration/scoring/result/... and more service that supports IPSC, USPSA, PPC and Steel Challenge. All match formats under IPSC, USPSA, PPC and Steel Challenge are supported including IPSC League, USPSA Leage, IPSC Tournament/multi-gun. IPSC Grand Tournament and USPSA Tournament (according to 2010 rules) will be supported within short. SSI makes it easy for you to arrange matches, allow competitors to register themselves (you can link to a registration page for your match), support reports, pre-filled pdf scorecards and more... SSI also has a separate and dedicated web for mobile devices that you can access and score from any small handheld thing/phone/pda/... that has a web browser in it. Works great in iPhone or Android http://shootnscore.it/intro/ Any and all feedback is always acted upon !!! mvh / Jens Edited July 22, 2010 by jenlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Am I missing something here, or do I need to create an account for every shooter I try to add to a match? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlu Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) Am I missing something here, or do I need to create an account for every shooter I try to add to a match? Yes and no, you create a match and then you can have shooters register themselves (there is a link you can copy and past to your club web site, send out in your club email or ... and you find it under your match - send invitation). Then each shooter registers themselves (and if they have not yet created an SSI account then they will do that first). So, no you do not need to create it for them - they have to do it first... Then to the yes parts - yes, you can add competitors as the match organizer add competitors to the match - you do this under match - competitor - add competitors and there you can search among existing users in SSI and add them to your match (so once they have created their account the first time - you can see them there). To help out with scoring SSI also allows you to create groups of organizers where you can invite SSI users to be admin (can do anything for the match) or staff (can only enter score, edit competitors). mvh / Jens Edited July 22, 2010 by jenlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Am I missing something here, or do I need to create an account for every shooter I try to add to a match? Yes and no, you create a match and then you can have shooters register themselves (there is a link you can copy and past to your club web site, send out in your club email or ... and you find it under your match - send invitation). Then each shooter registers themselves (and if they have not yet created an SSI account then they will do that first). So, no you do not need to create it for them - they have to do it first... Then to the yes parts - yes, you can add competitors as the match organizer add competitors to the match - you do this under match - competitor - add competitors and there you can search among existing users in SSI and add them to your match (so once they have created their account the first time - you can see them there). To help out with scoring SSI also allows you to create groups of organizers where you can invite SSI users to be admin (can do anything for the match) or staff (can only enter score, edit competitors). mvh / Jens So as of now there is no way to add a competitior to a match if they don't have an SSI account? I don't want to make all my shooters sign up for an account, I just want to add them to the match roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlu Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 There are two sides of the coin here, they only need to do it once and as organizer of a match you can just put out the link and have them do it themselves and save time. If you arrange regular club matches then this will not be an issue and you can keep track of score over time and run leagues, cups and other things with component matches. For the shooter they can also keep track of match results over time and more... You also do not need to worry about saving the results as organizer - you can always get to them... You can download pre-preprinted scorecards, you can after the match send out the results.pdf in an email by just doing - 'reports' - 'send to all competitors' and lots more thing... mvh / Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pro2AInPA Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I'm doing a one-time steel match and this program looks like it'll be great and make scoring very easy and fast. The match is next weekend though, so I don't have time to rely on all the shooters to sign up for an account. I'll see what I can figure out, because I'd really like to use this - it looks great so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlu Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 I'm doing a one-time steel match and this program looks like it'll be great and make scoring very easy and fast. The match is next weekend though, so I don't have time to rely on all the shooters to sign up for an account. I'll see what I can figure out, because I'd really like to use this - it looks great so far. Cool, any things you need - just email/PM me and I will get it fixed... Usually have turnaround time on new features within 2-3 days... / Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Any updates on this? Submittal to USPSA for approval planned at any time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlu Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 Any updates on this? Submittal to USPSA for approval planned at any time? Lots of new features added in the area of supporting the registration and administration of shooters. You can now manage various registration fees, take orders for various merchandize (t-shirts, lunch, match ammo, etc), view total sum to be paid for each shooter, mark paid, handle repayments... On the sport shooting side added support for PPC Cups and Leagues. Currently approved/recommended by various local IPSC regions in the world. Will get in touch with USPSA ! Let me know if there is anything you like to be added. Layout/graphics update will be coming up within the next weeks / Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 I don't speak for USPSA, but I know what would be involved in approval: - Scoring several matches and comparing results, and all reports to make sure they are identical. - Interface to configure classifier / activity fees if they ever change - Classifier library matching USPSA's, with formal verification each one is identical - All web interfaces - scores up to the web; classification files; on-line squadding up and down 100% compatible with USPSA systems - Accomplish the above without using USPSA resources to assist in debugging, provide documentation other than perhaps the code that generates/reads transfer files; etc. - An agreement by all users that in the event of ANY incompatibility scores would not be accepted, and activity fees not refunded, if the sole reason they could not be entered into USPSA processes was a flaw in a non-USPSA program. - An agreement that USPSA staff will provide NO support for the third party program. It's not just about a working scoring program; but about one that fits smoothly into the USPSA process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted May 10, 2011 Share Posted May 10, 2011 (edited) I don't speak for USPSA, but I know what would be involved in approval: - Scoring several matches and comparing results, and all reports to make sure they are identical. - Interface to configure classifier / activity fees if they ever change - Classifier library matching USPSA's, with formal verification each one is identical - All web interfaces - scores up to the web; classification files; on-line squadding up and down 100% compatible with USPSA systems - Accomplish the above without using USPSA resources to assist in debugging, provide documentation other than perhaps the code that generates/reads transfer files; etc. - An agreement by all users that in the event of ANY incompatibility scores would not be accepted, and activity fees not refunded, if the sole reason they could not be entered into USPSA processes was a flaw in a non-USPSA program. - An agreement that USPSA staff will provide NO support for the third party program. It's not just about a working scoring program; but about one that fits smoothly into the USPSA process. Interesting that your list above doesn't include compatibility with the current Palm scoring system... Anyway, I'm planning on spinning up an open source application primarily intended for USPSA Handgun Matches, but with pluggable scoring modules to support different scoring systems for Multi-gun/3-gun. The hardest part for me are the two highlighted items above. I've reverse engineered the webfile.txt and classification text files and are pretty confident about those files. The online squadding file looks do-able although there seems to be some mystery fields. As I've asked before, there is no sandbox application to try playing with the online squadding feature so if something is going to fail, it's going to fail on a live match level II or higher match (since as far as I can see, the only way to get USPSA to setup online squadding is for Level II or higher approved matches). As for the Palm support, if I don't need to write code for it, even better. Or worst case, since this project will become open source, somebody else can write that feature. :-) Edited May 10, 2011 by Skydiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted May 13, 2011 Share Posted May 13, 2011 Interesting that your list above doesn't include compatibility with the current Palm scoring system... Palm support is a MUST for the official USPSA program. I could live without it on another approved program, but the burden would be upon the applicant to prove that the qualification and compatibility testing could be done without any load upon the USPSA office. It's not a matter of turf protection, but ANY scoring inaccuracy or process problem at a match, particularly a major one, is going to cause much wailing an gnashing of teeth for members and USPSA staff alike. Most importantly, I am NOT speaking for USPSA or the USPSA office; just stating what requirements I would recommend and insist upon if USPSA asked what I felt was necessary to "approve" a program. As to squadding - if you convinced USPSA HQ to create a match in the system like "ZZ TEST", it would be possible to sandbox it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlu Posted May 13, 2011 Author Share Posted May 13, 2011 Thanks all for the comments, have started to compile a list and do some estimates. Short question - do you feel the requirements would / could be limited to approve SSI as-is if such approval was restricted to ONLY Level I / II matches. mvh / Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 If you need a club to run some Beta, would be willing to run your program and paper score a few matches. We do MG and Pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlu Posted May 19, 2011 Author Share Posted May 19, 2011 If you need a club to run some Beta, would be willing to run your program and paper score a few matches. We do MG and Pistol. Great, feel free to do this. You find everything on http://shootnscoreit.com where you create your match/stages and then get people to self-register. Once this is done you can print out pre-filled pdf paper scoresheets and shoot and then go back and enter the scores in the system and get the results out. If you have any ideas/questions/improvments... email me at jens@twostorysoftware.com FYI currently working on adding IDPA support for both handgun and DMG matches and this will done within the next week or so... / Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenlu Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 FYI currently working on adding IDPA support for both handgun and DMG matches and this will done within the next week or so... IDPA is now fully supported by SSI, both Handgun Matches and DMG/Defensive Multi Gun matches according to all the latest rules and appendixes. / Jens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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