Stock Glock trigger

[sfpmb]

When I started shooting production, a good shooter took my G34 pistol and gave it an awesome trigger job. He raised the cruciform spring hole, put set screws for both pre and over travel, shaved the trigger safety and it felt good. I ran that trigger for almost three years, the guy did a great job on it. Well it started acting up. I went and got a new 3.5 disconneter, trigger bar and trigger housing. I was going to get another trigger job but decided to run the new stuff for function. I polished it all up and put it in and off I went. That was in Feb. I am not having any issues running that trigger and I am not going to change it. I have not seen any decline in performance and I run it just as fast, putting in some nice performances with it. Psychologically, it really made an impact that it is me the the shooter that makes it run.

Now I am not saying dump a NY in there and that will keep you on the power curve but I question the impact of some trigger jobs. Maybe it was the best option until I got comfortable and made some improvement. What brings this up is I was thumbing through some older Frontsite issues and on the cover of the Jan/Feb 2010 cover is Vogel. I cleary see the trigger of his glock and believe he has not messed with his take up. If he or Sevigny is not doing the pre and over travel of the glock and they can win, that means something.

I am curios as to what they do do, if anything, to their triggers other than a load specific recoil spring or "the standard" reduced striker spring.

Edited July 18, 2010 by sfpmb

[Micah]

Their triggers are not bone stock. That being said...a stock trigger never prevented anyone from becoming a GM.

What I would point out is that it is logical to make modifications to your pistol that better suit your personal preferences/ergonomics (within the rules of that specific division).

[Taildraggerdave]

Go shoot Revolver for a year and see how awesome every other trigger is after that........

Take care,

Dave

[Sarge]

Why is it that we can't seem to fathom that top shooters such as the ones you mention could probably win with a ______. ( insert any gun you can think of with a horrible trigger)Those guys are just phenoms. What the rest of us mere mortals do is try to make our guns as good as possible for US.

[Jman]

Essentially all us Glock shooters try to do is this. Eliminate that scraping, heavy concrete on concrete grinding delight that we all know and love. Not at all hard to do ourselves. Then we just send Charlie Vanek $130.00 for his Classic. Which is, for all intent and purposes a kick ass stock+ trigger.

Pretty much it.

Edited July 18, 2010 by Jman

[Cy Soto]

...shaved the trigger safety...

I am sure you already know this but I would just like to point out that this (shaving the trigger safety) or any other externally visible modification in not permitted in Production division. Having said that I will add that I am certain that it is not the trigger on their pistols that make Vogel nor Sevigny the top competitors that they are. We could give those folks a water pistol and they would still kick serious butt!

[getagun]

Here's a vid of my trigger pull. Couldn't shoot the way I do without it.

[Wik]

Here's a vid of my trigger pull. Couldn't shoot the way I do without it.

What's the story on that trigger?

[Jman]

What's the story on that trigger?

Salient Arms International had a blurb in Front Sight not to long ago. Think they had a booth at the 2010 Shot Show.

No where to be found now. Not that that means anything but you wonder.

[Cy Soto]

Salient Arms International had a blurb in Front Sight not to long ago. Think they had a booth at the 2010 Shot Show.

I can't find any information about the company but I did find an example of their Glock modifications and I must admit that I am intrigued...

[sfpmb]

Couldn't shoot the way I do without it.

You got me thinking because I have never checked my pistol trigger pull. Mine is less than 2 1/2 but more than 2 lbs (NRA weight set). It looks like your are running in limited and my question/statement was for production triggers. I was trying to point out that I can make it run, not the specific trigger. I am not bagging on triggers, it just took me by surprise with how less important it is than I thought it was. I would not sell yourself short though. I don't believe that less than a pound difference would make it a paperweight for you.

I did look up salient, website takes me to nowhere. If it is the guy who posted the video, it looks like he is down in southern CA (TY64075 Rafael Esqueda)or he may be able to point you toward who does that trigger.

[getagun]

Couldn't shoot the way I do without it.

You got me thinking because I have never checked my pistol trigger pull. Mine is less than 2 1/2 but more than 2 lbs (NRA weight set). It looks like your are running in limited and my question/statement was for production triggers. I was trying to point out that I can make it run, not the specific trigger. I am not bagging on triggers, it just took me by surprise with how less important it is than I thought it was. I would not sell yourself short though. I don't believe that less than a pound difference would make it a paperweight for you.

I did look up salient, website takes me to nowhere. If it is the guy who posted the video, it looks like he is down in southern CA (TY64075 Rafael Esqueda)or he may be able to point you toward who does that trigger.

Sorry for the delay guys I've been shooting all weekend.

As far as Salient Arms it has been up and running for quite a will now. The website has been in developement for a while as they ran into employee issues and passwords. Coming soon though. I can answer just about anything in regards to the business as I'm one of their shooters, Taran Butler being the other.

The trigger in the Glock 24 is a complete custom tune job. I actually do them myself.

[getagun]

Salient Arms International had a blurb in Front Sight not to long ago. Think they had a booth at the 2010 Shot Show.

I can't find any information about the company but I did find an example of their Glock modifications and I must admit that I am intrigued...

Those are actually my Guns. Feel free to ask anything you want.

[sweetback]

Salient Arms International had a blurb in Front Sight not to long ago. Think they had a booth at the 2010 Shot Show.

I can't find any information about the company but I did find an example of their Glock modifications and I must admit that I am intrigued...

Those are actually my Guns. Feel free to ask anything you want.

Can you show us any examples of 9/40 MAJOR OPEN GLOCKS your company Salient Arms builds and campaigns in competition?

[Jman]

Couldn't shoot the way I do without it.

You got me thinking because I have never checked my pistol trigger pull. Mine is less than 2 1/2 but more than 2 lbs (NRA weight set). It looks like your are running in limited and my question/statement was for production triggers. I was trying to point out that I can make it run, not the specific trigger. I am not bagging on triggers, it just took me by surprise with how less important it is than I thought it was. I would not sell yourself short though. I don't believe that less than a pound difference would make it a paperweight for you.

I did look up salient, website takes me to nowhere. If it is the guy who posted the video, it looks like he is down in southern CA (TY64075 Rafael Esqueda)or he may be able to point you toward who does that trigger.

Sorry for the delay guys I've been shooting all weekend.

As far as Salient Arms it has been up and running for quite a will now. The website has been in developement for a while as they ran into employee issues and passwords. Coming soon though. I can answer just about anything in regards to the business as I'm one of their shooters, Taran Butler being the other.

The trigger in the Glock 24 is a complete custom tune job. I actually do them myself.

Hope to see you in our "Vendor Tent" soon.

[sfpmb]

Welcome

You said "they" in reference to the business or is it "you" who are the business (I.e. Your trigger job, your guns). I checked Taran's website and it lists glockworx as his sponsor but nothing about salient.

You put it out there so I just want to know more. Do you have a service list for gun mods and trigger jobs? Are you the smith and just starting out? I notice you only shot limited, are you going to shoot production and make a production legal trigger?

[getagun]

Salient Arms International had a blurb in Front Sight not to long ago. Think they had a booth at the 2010 Shot Show.

I can't find any information about the company but I did find an example of their Glock modifications and I must admit that I am intrigued...

Those are actually my Guns. Feel free to ask anything you want.

Can you show us any examples of 9/40 MAJOR OPEN GLOCKS your company Salient Arms builds and campaigns in competition?

As soon as we have one ready to go I will post pics. The only open guns right now are Infinity's and STI's.

[getagun]

Welcome

You said "they" in reference to the business or is it "you" who are the business (I.e. Your trigger job, your guns). I checked Taran's website and it lists glockworx as his sponsor but nothing about salient.

You put it out there so I just want to know more. Do you have a service list for gun mods and trigger jobs? Are you the smith and just starting out? I notice you only shot limited, are you going to shoot production and make a production legal trigger?

Yes it is all coming soon. Unfortunately Im not setup as a vendor yet so until then I don't want to imply any advertising. I am not the owner nor an employee just one of there shooters. As far as the trigger in the video that is my own doing. In fact I just finished Kelly Bachands Glock 34 from Top Shot.

AS far as Glockworx on Taran's site and being sponsored by them. He cannot remove them off his site as of right now. His password to it has being misplaced.

I hope these pics help with the sponsorship question.

[sfpmb]

Thanks for the clarification, the logo looks good on the jersey.

Well, I'm asking as well as the previous posters. What's a good number and a contact person for the salient mods.

[MarkCO]

Why is it that we can't seem to fathom that top shooters such as the ones you mention could probably win with a ______. ( insert any gun you can think of with a horrible trigger)Those guys are just phenoms. What the rest of us mere mortals do is try to make our guns as good as possible for US.

I respectfully disagree! For the most part, they are normal mortal people that, for some reason, have pushed themselves to phenominal performance. Sure, there are some that possess an extra dose of fast twitch muscles, but they have put in long, weary and sometimes not fun practice, training and repetition. For most people, the thirst for better performance drives them to beleive that the equipment, or some special inputed talent got the GMs where they are. Then we look for that one little thing that will make us better.

What WILL make you better is practice, introspection, dedication and (in most cases) some good motivation and coaching.

With a Glock, IF you have proper technique, transferable across all platforms, and a slightly above average hand size, the trigger matters very little. If your technique is poor, then a better trigger can help some, but only to a certain point. I have short fingers so reducing the take-up allowed a correct finger engagement on the trigger on the first shot. If my fingers were longer, I would not bother with it. I don't worry much about overtravel, but folks with longer fingers can certainly benefit from it and when I put togehter a trigger for those types, I put in an overtravel stop. The pistol is a tool, and like carpenters prefer different hammers, shooters prefer different guns and configurations. What I won't do is ever tell anyone to change (detrimnetally) to meet a guns specs. Change the gun to meet you!