IPSC scoring for Android

[Kupsi]

Hey that's pretty nifty! I like it! Is it possible to have it say 1NP or 2NP when the box is yellow, instead of a standard 1 or 2?

1NP and 2NP doesn't fit on one line in the box, but could I use (1) and (2)?

I'm going to bed now. I'll get back to you tomorrow.

Edited June 28, 2010 by Kupsi

[Chris Keen]

Sure, just something additional to help distinguish that these Misses are non-standard.

[Kupsi]

A new day, new opportunities...

OK. Here's my thoughts:

1. I need to add a selection box on the stage setup where you can choose scoring method. Comstock would be pre selected, but you can change to Virginia Count or Fixed Time.

2. I need to add a selection box under "Number of paper targets" where you can choose how many hits a target should score. The selection goes from 1 to 8, and 2 is pre selected.

This presupposes that there are the same number of hits that should be scored on all targets in the same stage. Is this correct? And is 8 hits / target enough?

3. I need to change the maximum number of paper targets from 16 to 32.

4. When the scoring is Virginia count, I add two extra boxes under Time and Power factor named "Extra shots" and "Extra hits" where you can enter the penalties. Is it ok to have these penalty boxes / stage, or should it be penalty boxes / target?

5. When the scoring is fixed time, I add two extra boxes under Time and Power factor named "Extra shots" and "Extra hits" where you can enter the penalties. I replace the Time with a box named "Late hits" where you can enter the late hits penalties. Is it only the late hits that are -5 instead of -10, or is also extra shot and extra hit -5?

6. I change the NS to go from 0 - 12, and the same with Proc.

7. I make the time field a litle smaller and add a new button to the right of it. When you click this button you get a new "window" where you can enter "string times" and save. When you click save these string times are added and put in the time field. You can also enter one string time, go back and enter hits, go back and enter a new string time, go back and enter hits, and so on.

[Kupsi]

I removed the yellow miss boxes temporary in 1.5.3.

[Chris Keen]

A new day, new opportunities...

OK. Here's my thoughts:

1. I need to add a selection box on the stage setup where you can choose scoring method. Comstock would be pre selected, but you can change to Virginia Count or Fixed Time. YES

2. I need to add a selection box under "Number of paper targets" where you can choose how many hits a target should score. The selection goes from 1 to 8, and 2 is pre selected. YES

This presupposes that there are the same number of hits that should be scored on all targets in the same stage. Is this correct? And is 8 hits / target enough? Yes that sounds great, and I think USPSA rules allow "no more than 8 scoring hits per paper target", so that would be perfect also.

3. I need to change the maximum number of paper targets from 16 to 32. YES

4. When the scoring is Virginia count, I add two extra boxes under Time and Power factor named "Extra shots" and "Extra hits" where you can enter the penalties. Is it ok to have these penalty boxes / stage, or should it be penalty boxes / target? YES, per stage would work. When a competitor has "Extra Shots & Extra Hits" they generally only have 2 or 3 per any VC stage. Or like I said yesterday, we could always use the PROC. box on each target to include "Extra Shots & Extra Hits".

5. When the scoring is fixed time, I add two extra boxes under Time and Power factor named "Extra shots" and "Extra hits" where you can enter the penalties. I replace the Time with a box named "Late hits" where you can enter the late hits penalties. Is it only the late hits that are -5 instead of -10, or is also extra shot and extra hit -5? In a FIXED TIME stage "Extra Shots & Extra Hits" are still -10, but late shots are -5. Again, except for the Late Shots, we could just use the PROC. box. Maybe just replace the Time box with a Late Shot box and be done with it?

6. I change the NS to go from 0 - 12, and the same with Proc. YES

7. I make the time field a litle smaller and add a new button to the right of it. When you click this button you get a new "window" where you can enter "string times" and save. When you click save these string times are added and put in the time field. You can also enter one string time, go back and enter hits, go back and enter a new string time, go back and enter hits, and so on. Could you add a drop-down box in the stage setup that gives a choice of 1, 2, 3, or 4 strings of fire but defaults to 1? Then add additional TIME boxes in the stage scoring screen when there are more than 1 string of fire?

Kupsi, I can't thank you enough for working on this. I think you really have a winner here. I noticed in the ABOUT MENU this is a "trial version" and expires on August 15, 2010. When this happens will you make this a paid app, and how much will the fee be?

Thanks again!

Edited June 29, 2010 by Chris Keen

[Kupsi]

Kupsi, I can't thank you enough for working on this. I think you really have a winner here. I noticed in the ABOUT MENU this is a "trial version" and expires on August 15, 2010. When this happens will you make this a paid app, and how much will the fee be?

I'm hoping to get a little back for the hours spent on this. But in Norway, we're not able to sell apps in the Android Market yet. So I don't know. Either way, you will get a license or two for free.

[Chris Keen]

I'm hoping to get a little back for the hours spent on this. But in Norway, we're not able to sell apps in the Android Market yet. So I don't know. Either way, you will get a license or two for free.

After seeing all the iPhone apps for IPSC scoring, dryfire timers, and long-range ballistics programs .....This app is a thing of beauty! I'm glad to see someone finally taking the time to help out the Android community!

THANKS AGAIN!!!!

[hanexp]

Just wanted to add my appreciation for your efforts to build a practical application for practical shooting on Android. I've downloaded it onto my motorola and will play with it this week and weekend.

Thanks!

[Kupsi]

Could you add a drop-down box in the stage setup that gives a choice of 1, 2, 3, or 4 strings of fire but defaults to 1? Then add additional TIME boxes in the stage scoring screen when there are more than 1 string of fire?

OK. I'll do it this way

But this will take some time, and I'm gone have a vacation from next week. I'll be watching this thread, but I don't think the update will be finished before the end of July

Thank you all for your replies

[pmd]

Kupsi,

Looks like this app will work well.

Question.

Under Tools "Calculate hitfactor & A time"

Say you hit the "C" button too many times for example you hit "5" and wanted "4" do you need to X the whole string or can you correct/change individual boxes?

Also - I was trying to do a sample test - I can't seem to add "Participants" is there a trick?

Thanks!

Paul

[Kupsi]

Say you hit the "C" button too many times for example you hit "5" and wanted "4" do you need to X the whole string or can you correct/change individual boxes?

You need to X the whole string.

Also - I was trying to do a sample test - I can't seem to add "Participants" is there a trick?

Go to "Members" from the "Main menu" and add a couple off names, then you can try to "Add participants" to the match again. Let me know if you don't get it to work.

[pmd]

Also - I was trying to do a sample test - I can't seem to add "Participants" is there a trick?

Go to "Members" from the "Main menu" and add a couple off names, then you can try to "Add participants" to the match again. Let me know if you don't get it to work.

It work!

[ampleworks]

This will be a great app for whenever someone comes out with an "iPad size" Android device. With the right amount of work, I could see this being a great alternative to the Palm scoring.

I wanted to do this a long time ago but I don't know jack about programming unless its PHP

[Chris Keen]

I keep telling all my friends that there will be an "iPad style" Android device soon enough. And you're right, that could revolutionize electronic scoring!

[8082011]

Just downloaded, thanks for the great work. HTC Incredible phone

[Kupsi]

One question...

Is it correct that Virginia Count and Fixed Time stages can only have paper targets?

[Chris Keen]

I know that to be true for Virginia Count ....... but I'm gonna say I'm 99% positive that it's true for "Fixed Time" also, because Fixed Time stages also incur -10 penalties for extra shots (over and above the number of shots stated in the stage description) and that's why they don't allow steel targets in Virgina Count.

So the short answer is YES.

[Kupsi]

One more thing

I've programmed the NS to go from 0 to 12, but isn't it better if the maximum number depends on required hits / target?

[Chris Keen]

No, in USPSA we have gone back to an old rule that dictates "There is no maximum number of no-shoot hits". Or in other words If you shoot them, you earn them.

But I still don't think you need to have an infinite number of no-shoot hits, because you have a box for NS's next to each target. So essentially even if you max out 1 NS box in the scoring program, one could always continue on with the next target's NS box.

[Kupsi]

OK.

I've done a lot yesterday and today, so I hope to get the new version finished before I go on vacation next week

Edited July 1, 2010 by Kupsi

[Too_Slow]

Actually I would set the NS to 4 just in case. Think about a NS set tight between or overlapping 2 shoot targets.

Brian

Edited July 1, 2010 by Too_Slow

[Heckler]

I keep telling all my friends that there will be an "iPad style" Android device soon enough. And you're right, that could revolutionize electronic scoring!

Cisco Android Tablet HERE

[Pro2AInPA]

Works GREAT on my Nexus One. Thanks!

[Brooks]

This sounds like a very cool program. I look forward to trying it out on my Incredible when it arrives.

[Kupsi]

I've uploaded the new version. I haven't had much time to testing, so please let me know if you find anything wrong.

PS: The new version requires you to uninstall and reinstall (because of major changes to the database structure).