gerritm Posted December 26, 2011 Share Posted December 26, 2011 (edited) I gave my son a CZ for Christmas. He is just getting into 3-gun. Put the Nordic mag extension to make it 8 plus 1. We smoothed out any rough spots on the barrel and chamber. It had very few spots that needed anything. Good quality from the factory. Cut the Nordic mag spring to about 15" beyond the end of the mag tube. We shot about 100 rounds today and it functioned perfect. Not one hiccup or problem. Used the mod choke and shot 6" steel plates on the plate rack back to about 25 yds and knocked them down hard. We were shooting 3 1/4 dram -- 1 oz.--7 1/2 Federal shells. Does not like the Fiocci low recoil slugs. Would not eject them. Tried some Brennecke Reduced recoil Home defense slugs and they shot and ejected fine. At 50 yards they hit point of aim. I really like this shotgun and the price was right. Around $500 with the Nordic parts. We may put a recoil pad on it, but even the recoil was not bad. He will shoot it in our next 3-gun and see what happens. gerritm Edited December 27, 2011 by gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksmirk Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Glad the boy liked it! frank there are some tricks to get the CZ to shoot light loads, most will run the 3 1/4 dram without issue but to get it to shoot lower dram loads your gonna have to do some work! pretty easy work as long as you don't think about it! I find several beers help LOL I've had some higher powers speak with Angus at CZ about lighter springs and the such but they don't seem to have them and I've yet to find the time to get some made so Mr. Dremel has helped on several shotguns around my area. Later, Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 We decided after installing the Nordic mag tube that he could use 1 more shell. In several of the matches we shoot you can load as many as the gun will hold. I ordered the XXL tube cap and we can now get 9 in the tube and 1 in the chamber. Still had room for about a half of a shell and still loaded the dummy rounds easily and ejected them fine. For what it is worth. gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horseman Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 gerritm, can't you also load one on te carrier of the 712 for an additional round? One in the chamber, one on the carrier, and 9 in the tube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted December 31, 2011 Share Posted December 31, 2011 Yes, you can ghost load the lifter. I just haven't figured out the exact way to do it. That will give us another round so, 9 in the mag, 1 on the lifter, and 1 in the chamber. Just need to figure out the correct order to do it. At several of the matches we start cruiser ready, so no shell in the chamber, but 1 on the lifter. This will work out and give a couple of extras to start. gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted January 1, 2012 Share Posted January 1, 2012 Just to let you guys know I bought a Briley bolt release butten from Brownells for a Beretta. With a little fitting it works great. looks good to. Schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Which one? gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 The picture would not down load from the web sight. But its the Briley EZ bolt release. Its a two part unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksmirk Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 gerritm, so you got the shotgun all going and given to the boy BUT where's the picture? dude we need some pics of the shotgun :-) Later, Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 (edited) gerritm, so you got the shotgun all going and given to the boy BUT where's the picture? dude we need some pics of the shotgun :-) Later, Kirk Pictures are coming. Adding 1 more thing to it. I have a new stock coming from CZ. It's an Akita adjustable stock. Once that is installed I will post pix. http://www.atigunstocks.com/stocks/55-akita-adjustable-stock.html gerritm Edited January 5, 2012 by gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) gerritm, so you got the shotgun all going and given to the boy BUT where's the picture? dude we need some pics of the shotgun :-) Later, Kirk Pictures are coming. Adding 1 more thing to it. I have a new stock coming from CZ. It's an Akita adjustable stock. Once that is installed I will post pix. http://www.atigunstocks.com/stocks/55-akita-adjustable-stock.html gerritm So here is the finished product we built for my son. CZ712U Nordic plus4 tube with xxl cap, teflon follower, nut, and barrel clamp Ext. bolt from BE member Tru Glo Hi Viz Turkey/Deer F.O. front sight ATI Akita adj. stock Briley mod extended choke gerritm Edited January 8, 2012 by gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Couple of more pictures: Thanks, Kirk for the advice and help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45user Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 gerritm, How much are you into your CZ 712? I'm not really handi with tools but how difficult was it to work on your shotgun? Thanks, 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) gerritm, How much are you into your CZ 712? I'm not really handi with tools but how difficult was it to work on your shotgun? Thanks, 45 Other than using a Dremel to remove the stock mag tube rolled edge to remove the stock spring and follower and make a smooth transition to the new Nordic tube, it was all basic hand tools. Allen wrench, screwdriver, and socket on the new Akita stock. Very easy conversion. The stock is not necessary to change. It has a fairly long LOP and my son wanted one a little shorter. Also the new stock has a very good recoil pad on it. We were going to put a recoil pad on the original and the length would have been too long for him. CZ712U -- $450 Nordic parts -- $100 F.O. front sight $30 Akita stock -- $80 Ext. bolt --$45 Total: Approx. $705.00 Edited January 8, 2012 by gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksmirk Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Glad everything went well! anytime you need a hand or direction feel free to shout. That mag tube is long, did the clamp change POI when shooting slugs? just curious as I've hear the clamp can change things a touch. Good job! 45user, the work on these is pretty straight forward and easy just take your time and you'll be golden. The hardest part might be drilling out the gas ports, speaking of I need to look that info up I've been crazy busy. Later, Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speederx7 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 I shot my cz this last weekend. shot it with some old game loads I had kicking around that were probably from the 70's. had one jam. fftf. lip of the shell caught on a sharp edge between barrel/receiver (where the extractor cut is) . I will break the edge with a dremel. I also have to shorten the stock a bunch to get my short arms able to do a strong arm reload. the ati stock might be in my future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speederx7 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) I shot my cz this last weekend. shot it with some old game loads I had kicking around that were probably from the 70's. had one jam. ftf. lip of the shell caught on a sharp edge between barrel/receiver (where the extractor cut is) . I will break the edge with a dremel. I also have to shorten the stock a bunch to get my short arms able to do a strong arm reload. the ati stock might be in my future... Edited January 9, 2012 by speederx7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 (edited) Took the finished product out to the range and even though it was raining we put about 50 rounds thru it on the double plate rack. Shot perfect and the new stock and recoil pad did it's job. He loves it. No failures of any kind. Shooting Federal 3 1/4 dram, #8, 1oz shells. First match is this weekend. The new stock gives him at least 1" shorter pull. We moved the clamp back towards the fore stock so it doesn't affect the POI so much on slugs. Didn't get a chance to shoot slugs, but I think it will be fine.Have not messed with the gas ports or spring. Not going to tempt success. gerritm Edited January 9, 2012 by gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksmirk Posted January 10, 2012 Share Posted January 10, 2012 I just wanted to see where I could get it on light loads just because hehe I shoot the 3 1/4 dram loads at matches as long as the box says Federal I'm good first time those Winchester bulk enter the shotgun bad things would happen! if shoots them fine now but they are just iffy so I stick with the Federal, why mess with something if it works? Later, Kirk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I got a call from Nordic yesterday they are going to send me a new bolt handle for the CZ to try out. I am unable to post pics so if i could e-mail pics to someone here to post thhat would be great. Schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suesstech Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Schultz, I hope Nordic releases it for everyone. None of my solutions have worked out and I just shot a match today and tore up my finger. I'll send a PM with my email. Very interested in pics as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I hope this doesn't show up as a doulble post. But I believe the plan is to release for sale. I made my 1st bolt from a Nordic and my stock handle. This new one is quite differant but I like it. Schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 He shot the CZ in the match today and it ran perfect. Not a lot of rounds, but took down the Texas Star in 5 shots and 7 small steels one for one. The finish was to load up 4 slugs and hit 2 paper targets hidden by a couple of plastic barrels at about 20 yards. Getting to really like this shotgun. gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Question to the group: Is the front bead removable? I'm considering replacing it instead of using the Hiviz Birdbuster magnetic attach fiber optic replacement. Thank you. Comments: I would love a properly made bolt handle to go on this. Dremel purchased, need to find time to open up the end of the magazine tube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sschultz Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I put a easy hit fiber optic on mine and did not have to remove the bead. I sent pics of the new bolt handle to another member to post. If Nordic goes ahead with these I think you will like them. Schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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