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Jay Winfield

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  1. Thanks Gentlemen for your advise. The first thing I did was to look at the crimp. I am using a set of Redding Pro Series 38 Spec./357 Mag dies that I had set up for 158 gr. lead bullets with a healthy crimp. This set up was crimping the peanuts out of the plated bullets so I backed off .035" which put on just a slight crimp. My brother and I went back out to the range armed with a our two 627's and this new lot of ammo ( 158 West Coast plated bullets / 4.9 gr. WW231 / Federal cases / WSP primers). The results were basically the same, at 25m we were not able to keep four out of the eight shots on the 5' x 4' target board. I also loaded up some 125 gr. Remington SPHP bullets with 4.9 gr. WW231 and WSP's and got much better groups, 6" @ 25m. I am going to get some factory ammo, 148 gr. WC's 38 Spl., 158 gr. lead RN 38 Spl. and 125 gr Leadless 38 Spl. to try and come up with a basis to work from. My brothers out of the box S&W 1911 45 ACP will shoot 3" @ 25m with 200 gr. lead SWC's / 4.9 gr. WW231 / WLP's and mixed brass. So the S&W 627's should be able to do as well if not better??? Thanks, Jay
  2. Gentlemen - I need your advice and help with reloading for my 357 Mag S&W 627. My brother and I both have 627's, I have the regular 5" and he has the V-Comp model. One of the reasons we got the 627's was because of the moonclips and the other was that in Canada pistols must have a barrel greater than 4" or they are classified as prohibited and thus reguire a special permit for which we do not qualify. To get the most speed out of the moonclips we decided to try plated or jacketed bullets. We first tried some 125 gr. Remington JHP bullets in Federal cases, CCI 500 primers and 5.3 gr. of WW231. Results were quite good with excellent groups out to 25 meters. I wanted to use the heavier 158's, longer bearing surface, so we got some West Coast X-treme copper plated 158 gr. RNFP bullets and loaded them in 38 Spl. Federal cases with CCI 500 primers in two lots, one with 4.3 gr. for WW231(minor) and the second with 6.1 gr. of WW231 (major). Both loads produced groups of just over 8" at 10 meters with 6 for the 8 hitting the target sideways, key holeing. These West Coast bullets are extremely hard and measure just over .357", maybe .3572". We have shot 158 gr. Federal & Remington lead factory loads withh excellent results. The problem with factory lead bullets is the lead fouling and the fact that we can only fire about 75 rds before accuracy really starts to fall off and we have to stop for a major cleaning job. The guy we get our bulk bullets from keeps recommending 125's however from info I see on this forum most use plated 158's because they work better speed loading with moonclips. Is it possible that 125's are more accurate than 158's? Any suggestions on a better avenue to take? Thanks, Jay
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