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i also tried loading a dozen hbwc's backwards to blow up water jugs with - they went sideways! My father, to proof a point once, loaded a bunch of 148 WC made from pure wheel weight without adding any extra tin. Then oil quenched the bullets out of the mold to make them a little harder. In 25 yard targets the bullets were coming apart into usually a big chunk and a few fragments. And they were 700-800 ish. It is amazing what we do with our reloads. Looks like Bullseye wins. It has been a long time since I did 38 or 357 reloading and back then it was with wood trays, lever action powder measure and manually crimping the bullets with a die & plastic hammer. It is going to feel really weird setting up the 650. Thanks everyone.

I remember there used to be a very large dealer in Tennessee similar to Powder Valley. Anyone have a name or better web address or phone? Thanks, Butch

They are not the tracer jackets I have seen for 30-06 or 308 ammo. Other than no lead inside, they look exactly the same.

I need some good target loads for 38 Special to load for my cousins and their kids to practice with. I have available Bullseye, Win Ball Powder, Unique, 2400, N350, Hod. Universal Clays, may be a little 231 and PB. They will go in 7.5" - 8 3/8" long barrel 357's and 2" barrel S&W pistols. If I need to load an ammo box to use in both types of guns, that is fine too. I have 148 DEWC & 158 SWC lead bullets (both on the light side due to hardness). Thanks, Butch

I would ask them a question(s) they can't answer... What are you doing to protect my SSN or drivers license number? (I don't know in MD if SSN is on Drivers License or not.) How are you obeying the Home Land Security Act & the Privacy Act? Just my 2 cents worth. Butch

I need to load up some 38 special target loads for my cousins to practice and get the kids involved. Both have S&W 2" barrel revolvers and 686 8 3/8 barrel and a Ruger Blackhawk 3 screw 7.5" barrel. I have Bullseye, 2400, N350, Win Ball Powder, Unique. Any good tested target loads anyone with any of the above? Bullets I have handy are 148 DEWC (about 142 grain due to hardness) & 158 SWC (about 152 grains) I have no problem doing short barrel loads & load barrel load in separate ammo cans for them in that is a better way to go. Thanks, Butch

Just for information: Click Through Advertising has been around for a very long time. (DoubleClick or Gator might be names you know.) Most people who do "Free web sites" (ha ha) have it. You first usually see 3 columns with a header and footer sections. One column usually is the web site and all the rest is advertising. Now every link you click, any link or picture, actually deposits some cookie file or picture file on your computer before you go to where you just clicked. These files or cookies have the ability to first determine who you are and where you are. Some files produced by various advertisers and spyware vendors can also extract your address books, favorites, install programs in the background or even bypass your virus program and install some form of download virus. Now after all this is done the website that has the Click Through Advertising is paid $$$ for extracting your personal info or tracking your movements or sending you more pop ups or advertising in your email or on your computer directly. If this forum was Click Through Advertising like some other gun forums are. Brian would make an extra $400 or so a month. All Click Through Advertising is about one thing only.... GREED. "Money is the root of all kinds of evil." Ever hear that one? Now to help protect yourself you should never use Internet Explorer to browse the Internet. Use Firefox, SeaMonkey or Opera. When in those browsers you start finding blank pages when you click on items abandon the web site before worst things happen. My company designs firewalls to help block the evils of the Internet from businesses or state agencies. At present our Blacklist is about 600,000 web sites.

My father always tried to say something positive about all things... so here is my feeble attempt: It should be noted that EBay did finally overcome their greed to follow their moral beliefs. They should be praised for that. (Even though they are wrong!!!) Secondly the new EBay, GunsAmerica will be completed unreachable by my computer through my hardware firewall because "Click Through Advertising" is not allowed. Cool -- less chance of me spending money on any new guns or toys. (Just for you all who don't know what this is... Click Through Advertising has been around for a very long time. (DoubleClick or Gator might be names you know.) Most people who do "Free web sites" (ha ha) have it. You first usually see 3 columns with a header and footer sections. One column usually is the web site and all the rest is advertising. Now every link you click any link or picture actually deposits some cookie file or picture file on your computer before you go to where you just clicked. These files or cookies have the ability to first determine who you are and where you are. Some files produced by various advertisers and spyware vendors can also extract your address books, favorites, install programs in the background or even bypass your virus program and install some form of download virus. Now after all this is done the website that has the Click Through Advertising is paid $$$ for extracting your personal info or tracking your movements or sending you more pop ups or advertising in your email or on your computer directly. If this forum was Click Through Advertising like some other gun forums are. Brian would make an extra $400 or so a month. All Click Through Advertising is about one thing only.... GREED. "Money is the root of all kinds of evil." Ever hear that one? Now to help protect yourself you should never use Internet Explorer to browse the Internet. Use Firefox, SeaMonkey or Opera. When in those browsers you start finding blank pages when you click on items abandon the web site before worst things happen.

BTW... I would like to buy about 10K of your bullets....? Sorry I am not allowed to tell you where there is free bullet & brass classified advertising to look at to see if you can. I still can't believe an empty case got by quality control. I would expect the same in .223 caliber too. But 32 vs. 55 might not be a ???.

I bought up 100,000 or so pulled .308 147 grain bullets pulled from 308 ammo and found a real oddity... (actually a bunch of them) A copper clad zinc shell with no lead inside that weighs about 32 grains. It amazed me that this sorry quality control got through to begin with but... If this had been fired in a normal 308 rifle or machine gun. What do you think would happen? The bullet blow out the end of barrel with lots of flame? Powder charge blows through casing and jams the gun? Or melts into the barrel and causes a "blow up" next round? Butch

Besides my site that I am working on www.AllThatIsGuns.com and the above who else exists? auction type or classified?

Add another load to the list: 3.9 gr. Unique & 121 grain hard lead bullets.

If you are using Internet Explorer especially evil 7, these are results from Windows Updates & virus updates. They may or may not cure up with time. I have not seen any problems with Firefox or and Mozilla based browsers. Butch

how about not-for-profit http://www.AllThatIsGuns.com for any vendors or FFL.

I have been shooting up all of my father's powder & primers some dating 25+ years. I have only had 3 squibs that lodged a bullet in the barrel. In a perfect world what is the best way to get out the bullet or general ideas on removal of bullet? (Pistol barrel) Thanks, Butch

Here is the email address & fax number: a-and-r-docket@epamail.epa.gov (202) 566-1741 You must reference: Docket ID No. EPA–HQ–OAR–2005–0163 here is a web page of the original NRA email: http://www.AllThatIsGuns.com/law/ here is my personal email use or change accordingly. http://www.allthatisguns.com/law/OSHA-2007-0032-email.html The email link in that page should produce the proper subject line in your email program too. If you wish, I see no reason not to involve Congress representatives after you email and fax the EPA. This is one agency spending money and not minding their own business. The government already has the ATF. Here is the Adobe document, the above was on the last page: http://www.AllThatIsGuns.com/law/OSHA-2007-0032-0018.pdf

I have had a computer business for 22 years and I even thought this was more evil than most... First of all HP does not exist except in name. Compaq Chinaman makes all HP/Comqaq. A customer brought in the kid's computer. An HP Pavillion a1467a. It was doing the common XP Home Edition crash... starts then reboots. Been here done this a few hundred times. Opened up computer to remove hard drive attempt to scan for virus or spyware infection with my special created computer just for that purpose in the shop. Picked out usual Phillips Head screw driver and started taking things apart. Wow, I have a Phillip Head screw driver. Compaq / HP don't use Phillips Head screws they use Japanese metric torques. REFURB computer!!! Been here a few hundred times since I have a Staples, Circuit City and Sam's Club close by. Now have the hard drive out and it can not be read in another computer... Compaq uses a strange format on the hard drives that keeps the hard drive or other Compaq parts from being replaced standard parts. It's a Yugo and not a GM. Been down this road a few times. Try hard drive in server... still can't read the information on the hard drive. The lady has now lost every family picture, resumes, email, Paid For downloaded music, etc. Do the restore on the computer (by chance it worked and didn't have the usual battle with Compaq to buy restore CD's) Now it starts up, reboots. Starts up, reboots. NO safe mode either. Call the lady ask how long has she owned this REFURB computer? "It only had 9 months warranty and it is about a year old." Been down this road a few thousand times. NOW THE REAL PROBLEM.... It is a Compaq with a Compaq version of Windows XP. NO real Microsoft Serial number (COA), NO real Microsoft CD. Not even a Compaq Windows CD. The computer needs a new motherboard and a New Microsoft Windows XP. Maybe a new hard drive; since there has been no way to actually test it thanks to the Compaq special format. End of story... Lady buys a custom built computer from us for the kids. Buyer beware... The new parts needed to build a new computer are more than $600 my cost and my company buys at the $800,000 per year price margin. (That is 2% over what it costs directly from the Chinamen.) I guarantee Compaq makes more than $12 per PC. Now I have a HP to take out to the range to add to the Dells for target practice. Cool for me. Bad for anyone who didn't know. Butch P.S. Dell's don't have real Microsoft COA or real Microsoft CD's either. Only custom built computers from reputable businesses have real Microsoft CDs & COA.

People, I figure why reinvent the wheel. I figure some of you all already have club web sites or other not for profit sites that contain information I want to add to my web site. I am trying to populate ??????.com with Events, Clubs and Ranges. As opposed to the cut and paste method, I need anyone's prebuilt PHP and /or MySQL databases. If the MySQL database is simple I will have not problems converting or importing it. Most of you probably have phpMyAdmin at your ISP. You can use that to gzip the files. If you have Winblows just .zip the files. If you think they are too large to send through email please contact me at sales11 at iscnetwork.com Thanks in advance, Butch Walker

I have my trigger redone on my 92fs and it is one pound to pull out the double action slop and then 3 lbs to actually pull the trigger to shoot. I would like to know how yours comes out. After shooting a 1.5 on a Ruger Blackhawk it just seem too hard. Butch

The club in a typical Sportsman club. Shotgun traps on Monday, 250 max membership. 100 Rifle, 50 yard whatever, 25 yard pistol ranges. Descent size club house in middle of no where USA. NRA funded basically with grants. I haven't started with the kids but plan too later. But I keep running into them and other beginners who have been told all kinds of crap. My favorite is "You have to own a 45." A 12 year old who weights 90 lbs. doesn't need a 5 lb gun. My first hand gun was a Ruger 357 Blackhawk at 17 and I had a hard time keeping it steady. People look at me weird.... a computer geek with a gun, who doesn't drink beer, and has no desire to kill the deer or wild turkey that visit me all the time at the ranges. Because of this some kids feel more at home with me. Anything we can do to help promote future shooters needs to be done; I don't know the stats but I am not so sure the average younger American owns a handgun anymore let alone shoot it even once a year. That is why I started a not for profit website directory. But thanks for the info. I have not had any problem with any safety issue and supervision. That part the old timers have down well. (not that I am young.) Actually I was impressed originally. Going to the web sites now. thanks Butch

Yea that is when I put on one of my old Winchester factory load at 2050 fps and 10" of flame, after shooting "pop" 'pop' pop all afternoon. The other fun thing is when I am with a friend is to pull out his Mac 10 and unload the clip. I know I shouldn't but people who are "Experts on Everything" who are "Expert Shooters" who can shoot a 6" pattern on a good day really annoy me. Thanks for the laugh.

First please excuse my ignorance... I have never been at a sanctioned match and doubt I ever shoot one. Our club has 4H & Scouts and just various other beginners events. And too often "Experts on Everything." What are the distances used commonly in competition for pistol, so I can tell these beginners where they should set up their own targets for practice later? Rifle? Cowboy action? Thanks, Butch

Sound crazy but... How about 6 cent per load. Here is the logic for working up the load. First and most important SMALL RIFLE PRIMERS ONLY! A 32.20 by volume is only 5% more than typical 30 carbine commercial brass. Even less if military brass. I started with 3.0 grain Titegroup and 120 grain lead bullet from Flite Line (http://www.nauticom.net/www/flb/price.htm old price list but phone number works). It showed black on end of case. TOO LITTLE. 3.1 got rid of black but on eject most case fell out. Kick was so minimal hard to know if bullet left barrel. 3.2 grains.... NICE. cases push again cylinder walls; moderate kick. 4 out of 6 are less than 1" patterns from wood rest. And best of all NO FLAMES and 30-30 boom common to using rifle ammo in a Blackhawk. Anyone ever do similar? Other loads?

Anyone ever work up any load for a 30 carbine automag? The reloading manuals have Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine or M1 carbine. Since there is leakage in a revolver. I didn't have any idea how to gauge for semi-auto. It will shoot and ejects hot M1 carbine loads. So far all I have done is: 11.4 gr 2400 120 grain lead bullet 14.3 gr 4227 110 grain FMJ

I did 4.0 for Win 147 gr. JHP & lead too. Little warmer than what I normally shoot for paper so that is why I opted to load a batch of JHP's for water jugs and demos. Butch