grammaton76

It's been quite a while since I looked back at this thread. I JUST saw the new caliber conversions mentioned in the thread, and they've been added as of today. Thank you very much for the information. If anyone has more caliber conversions, I'd love to see them. It may be better to email me directly via grammaton76@gunwiki.net or private message me here, though.

Checkbox is added, and item (SKU) format is in. If you've got any ideas on making it look better, just let me know and I'll tweak the output format per request.

Geez Brian, ask for something tough why don't you? SKU's are right there in the db table; I can just add 'em to the select statement against the db. Would you prefer the SKU's in separate cells, or something like "Red funnel (SKU #23252)", or "Red funnel (23252)"? Just let me know how you'd like it to appear, and I'll see about tossing it in over the weekend. BTW, anything else you'd like to see done with the caliber conversion database should be easy to do. I have more trouble coming up with something I need than with doing the apps. VERY simple code. If you can let me know how you want it to appear, I'll have it done in no time. I'll probably do a checkbox in the preview so that folks can choose whether they want to see SKU's or not. Wow, thanks! Although, you could've just issued store credit instead - you're gonna get it back sooner or later. As for gpal - yeah, I've put those plans on hold. I do know two guys who work for GPal tech support though, and I'm relatively confident they're going to get things sorted out in the long run - at which point I'll offer gpal as a donation option. I'm not sure where Ben screwed up on gpal, but I've seen him in screwy situations in the past (e.g. the Milpitas lowers in '07 or so) and he's always made right on it in the end - it's just not necessarily right away. On a side note, if any of your buddies over at Dillon are interested in this for their website, I'd be interested in talking to 'em. I've written 'em before about the other app but never got a reply.

So, my previous effort was the caliber conversion shopping tool that helps you identify which conversion parts to order. I just found myself getting annoyed the other day as I had to look up which parts belong in which kit, at which point I realized that all I needed to do was use my existing database and write a small script to generate a quick-reference chart. It has two display options - one is a browser based chart suitable for printing (I just printed one myself) and the other is a CSV export which will dump the data to Excel (or OpenOffice, etc) so that you can manipulate it all you want on your system. Don't know about you guys, but I'm going to stick mine up right behind my 650. http://gunwiki.net/apps/calconversionsheet/ As always, I'm interested in and open to any feedback you guys may have on this.

Latest thing using this database is here: http://thegunwiki.com/apps/calconversionsheet/ I figure I'll make a separate thread, but may as well bump this in case folks haven't seen the related app for shopping for caliber conversions.

It's not that I don't believe that's the way it's supposed to be - it's just that I don't remember seeing one in mine (and I always wondered why 40S&W fed unreliably with the one in my box - the red one). At least I know now that I need to order it.

The really trippy thing here is that Dillon's manual for the 650 actually lists both the red AND the purple, on page 44. I've added the purple adapter in, given that Dillon's manual seems to indicate that this is supplied with the conversion kit in addition to the red part. That having been said, I have that conversion kit and have not seen the purple casefeed adapter, so I'm not so sure they are shipping it. Incidentally, the sorting method on the caliber conversions just finished bugging me enough to make me actually change it to a standard top->bottom column layout, rather than the calibers going across.

Sorry - fixed this. I just upgraded from TWiki to FOSwiki last night, and the caliber conversion broke quietly.

Added some new features to the conversion system. I figured since I have all the data in a database, I may as well make it more accessible. So, all the conversions in the screen are now clickable. If you click on a conversion, it'll show all the parts used in the conversion. Now this is what's really neat - click any of the parts, and it'll tell you all the other conversions it can be used in. Example, hit this URL and it'll show you the 650's 30 M1 Carbine conversion. http://gunwiki.net/apps/calconversion/showconvparts.asp?convid=17 Click any of the parts, it'll tell you where else those parts can be used. One minor quibble though - looking in the 30 M1 Carbine conversion in the Dillon 650 manual, it seems there are a number of misprints in the SKU's of the parts. It says powder funnel C, but it lists the SKU for powder funnel B. And interestingly enough, it seems the case insert slide doesn't appear for sale on Dillon's website separately. Not that I'd need to order it separately, but I'm kind of curious what it looks like.

Can someone edit the URL in the original post? The thegunwiki.com domain expired recently and I don't have access to renew it. In the meantime, all thegunwiki.com URLs will work fine if you substitute gunwiki.net for thegunwiki.com. The correct link is presently: http://gunwiki.net/apps/calconversion/

So, I have a friend who wishes to know what to use for a caliber conversion for 6.5x52mm (for his Carcano). Also, need to know what to use for 7.62x25mm Tokarev. Any chance I can get conversion kit specs for these, for the 650 / 550 / 1050 (if it exists)? I'll happily throw them into the caliber conversion app for the benefit of all.

Much appreciated - I've adjusted the titles on those conversions to reflect the additional calibers.

Thanks for the correction - I've adjusted it accordingly. I am pretty sure that the "9" must have appeared because my eyes were on the 9x18mm Makarov right above 9mm in the 550 manual. BTW, I just noticed that the 550 casefeeder manual has ANOTHER set of conversions in it. I'm contemplating now whether or not to go typing all that in. Do those parts come with the 550 casefeeder, or do you buy them separately?

I've got a request to add caliber conversions for .300 Wby Mag and .260 Remington. Can't find those in the conversion chart in the manuals for the 650, and I believe I didn't see them for the 550 either. Are they there and I'm just not noticing them (i.e. abbreviated some way I didn't catch), or are they undocumented?

Hey, would anyone with mod access mind editing the title and first post so that it doesn't claim to be just a 650 app anymore? I don't want 550, 1050, or SDB users ignoring this thread for saying "650" in the title, now that the converter can handle their presses too...

Unfortunately, my program is strictly internet based. The other guy's application (from nfatoys) has a Windows installation, but I'm not sure if it handles all four mainline Dillon's. Wait, did I say all four? ...yes, I just finished entering all the 1050 conversions too. I don't think I have anything left for Dillon conversions unless I perhaps got into the SL-900, or they put out a manual for their new 50 BMG reloader and I get to start punching in conversion info for 416 Barrett, 50 Spotter, etc... Ok, back to the NZ topic at hand. If you're really really desperate, I guess that I might be able to set up something so that you could run the application from a stand alone machine. However, I wouldn't be too interested in doing it for free since I'm a Linux user and don't really enjoy trying to develop for Windows. Just guessing here, but it would probably be easier for me to build a Blackberry or iPhone app than a Windoze app. In your case though, it would probably make more sense (cost-effectiveness wise) to just get the computer at work online, since you can then use that for a lot of different things. One thing I COULD do for you is add a .csv export feature. Then you could load it into Excel or something - it wouldn't be as useful as the interactive application and it certainly wouldn't be color coded, but you could at least sort things that way. It'd still be handier than the pages out of the Dillon manual, at least.

Indecision is over; the Square Deal B has been added. The last Dillon press left to go is the 1050. ...I figure I'm going to end up OCD'ing enough over it that the 1050 will be completely entered this weekend.

Good to know, Brian - I'll have to try and hash out a way to have the application disclose all the info there. In the meantime, folks will now be pleased to note that the app now has data for the 550. And, if you are crazy enough to select both the 650 and 550, it is aware of common parts between the two systems. So if you have all the parts but the powder funnel or buttons on the 650 for one conversion, and you do have those on the 550 - then yes, it will realize you have those parts even though they're on a different machine. It goes by SKU numbers of the conversion kit components though, so don't get worried thinking it'll tell you to put a 550 shellplate on a 650. Two-machine caliber analysis will really produce a lot of output, but the option is there if you really want to go there. Brian: If you want to provide links for specific machines, you're going to want to use the 'ml=' variable. So index.asp?ml= and the machine ID involved. I'm pretty sure the 650 is 1, the 1050 is 2, and the 550 is 3. Now if you can just prod Dillon into contributing some additional caliber data (or toss it in from the Brian Note Pile ), it can reach a truly ridiculous level of completion. So, I guess the question is now... what's next? Should I add the 1050, or should I start digging around at the Square Deal?\

Ok, finally done with the data entry. Fed the magnum rifle conversion parts, XL powder dies, etc into the 'misc' column. Man, that took some time! Question: Mag Rifle Conversion is listed, in the 650 owner's manual, as having: 1050 Mag CF Tube, Red 650 Mag CF Tube, Green CF Magnum Body Assembly CF Funnel Assembly, Lg Does this mean the magnum rifle conversion comes with the parts for the 1050 or 650, regardless of which press you order it for? If so, that'll simplify things and I can cut the output of the misc column down from three or four SKUs to one for this conversion...

Patience, grasshopper. You may have noticed that I'm now 2/3rds of the way through the documented 650 Conversions. Once I'm done with all of those, and any undocumented but official ones that Brian or Dillon may wish to contribute, I'll get started on other presses. ...I should mention that I would very much like to see a conversion for 7.62x25mm Tokarev. Hint, hint. I will probably start with the 550 though. But, I am definitely going to expand it to all of the Dillon line.

Aha, that now explains why I haven't ever seen it. It's a Windows app, and I'm strictly Linux (at home) and Mac (at work). As for the part numbers, mine actually does give the part numbers too, just not in the spreadsheet view. You have to use the 'compute conversion' link. I don't have the SKU numbers for everything yet, but it's there for most of the parts now.

Oh, it already works - make no mistake about it. The only thing presently not at 100% is that the data set is incomplete - not all the calibers are there and it presently only does the Dillon 650. Other neat thing is that down the road, it'll be able to look at all the conversions you have for all your Dillons, and be able to tell you what you'd need in order to move a caliber over to your 1050 for instance...

So, towards the middle of last week I resolved that I was finally going to get beyond sketching out database schemas, and I was actually going to WRITE this application. It's an interactive caliber conversion lookup for the Dillon 650. Tell it which calibers you have, and the calibers you want, and it will compute which INDIVIDUAL parts you would need in order to get the calibers you want. So, if you're only a locator button and a station 1 locator away from a different caliber, this application will tell you. Or if you happen to have the parts you need already, it'll make sure you know about it. BTW, make sure you click 'Spreadsheet View' and 'Compute Conversion' modes - you get more info in Compute mode (SKU, etc) but you get a better overview in Spreadsheet mode. I may one of these days set it up so that you can print a quick-reference PDF to hang by your reloading station... just the calibers you have. http://thegunwiki.com/apps/calconversion/ YES, the system is multiple machine and multiple manufacturer aware. I will be expanding it later on once my fellow 650 owners are completely taken care of and I've got everything I want in the app. But, it's at least useful right now. More calibers are coming... priority will be given to calibers requested in the thread. I don't check PM's much so try to just post here.

I do. http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/ReloadingNotesGrammaton76 There's a lot of reloading discussion on this round over at the 5.7 forum. I use Blue Dot powder and my load data's at the link above. On a side note, it MUST BE EMPHASIZED that these loads have only been tested in the PS90 RIFLE. The handguns are a LOT more sensitive, so I don't recommend using load data for the rifle, for the pistol... there's plenty of reports of blowing up the handguns with very slight changes from confirmed load data.

Is Montana pulling some kind of weird price ninjitsu here? I'm looking at their site... "$143.00(900) 1000/box". So, is it $143/900, minimum quantity 1000? In which case they may as well call it $158/1000? Or is there something I'm missing here?