Benelli Chick
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24 minutes ago, Dan Sierpina said:
Ask Denise and J.J.!
Well, shotgun is for moving targets...so we tried those and dang it if people didn't say they loved it. Okay, some people called it the F'ing shotgun stage, but so many look forward to it every year.
Set-up SUCKS! Reset SUCKS! Tearing down SUCKS!
But shooting the darn things are a hoot!
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15 hours ago, ericm said:
I believe that if the match rules stipulate a minimum throw distance from the shooter to the abandonment table or barrel (javelin style for long guns and shot put style for handguns), and the firearm bounces out or off of the abandonment table or barrel, miss penalties would apply.....
....but I think this only applies in the modern hexathlon (rifle, pistol, shotgun and the three separate throwing events for each)
ericm
You've been quiet lately. I'm glad this thread woke you out of your doldrums! He's back!
Yes, please start a survey! LOL!!!
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Aargh!!!!
Seriously, we're excited to see you all, too!
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Second Nightforce Precision/Tactical 2-Rifle match is in the books!
Congratulations to:
Mark Quintana - 1st Place
Kuan Watson - 2nd Place
Shawn Andrews - 3rd Place
Thanks to all our amazing sponsors!
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And we're off!!!
Staff shot 5 stages yesterday in the hot, hot, hot!
But, they seem to have fun even though they were melting!!!
Registration today from noon to 5!
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Results at: http://johnson3gun.webs.com/
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11 hours ago, Dan Sierpina said:
It's fun when a flash target almost becomes a spinner!
When you use those skinny sammies as flashers at less then 100 yards, they are spinners with .308...but they don't last very long! :-)
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Did anyone get an email on how to pay yet?
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9 hours ago, BradfromND said:
Come on Denise! I suppose the new camper hasn't been there yet.
4648 240th st n
Forest lake, mn 55025
Thank-you!!! :-)
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I know I'm dim, but is there an address to use for the GPS for the range???
I think we have coordinates, but it feels like we saw an address at one point...
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Looking forward to this match!
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Not that I can get!
I have been trying for 3 years to get an oxygen sponsor, and every year I get good feedback and they say they will probably do it and then radio silence!
So...bring your own????
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Just a quick update!
Stage breakdown is as follows! Remember TARGETS not rounds. You need an A or B or two anywhere to avoid penalty on paper!
Stage 1 – 3-Gun - Limited Round Stage – 2-10 round pistol magazines, 1- 20 round rifle magazine, 11 rounds of shotgun (We got such rave reviews from our Trailer Stage at He-Man that we’re bringing it back with a few changes. This may be the last time we get to use this area.)
Stage 2 – 3-Gun – 12 rifle steel, 2 slugs, 10 birdshot, 2 pistol paper and 10 pistol steel.
Stage 3 – Shotgun Birdshot – 44 rounds including swinging, flying, and launched birds.
Stage 4 – Shotgun/Rifle – 3 slugs, 10 birdshot, 12 rifle paper, 10 rifle steel. Rifle sling required.
Stage 5 – Pistol/Rifle - 10 pistol steel, the Texas Star for pistol, 9 pistol paper, and 24 rifle steel. Rifle sling required.
Stage 6 – Pistol – 21 steel, 21 paper, 2 clays
Stage 7 – Rifle – 22 steel, 3 clays, 16 paper
Stage 8 – 3-Gun – 8 pistol steel, 6 pistol paper, 10 birdshot steel, 2 launched birds, 12 rifle steel
Stage 9 – Shotgun/Pistol – Option stage – 12 clays for birdshot only, 6 paper for pistol only, 24 steel that can be pistol or birdshot.
So in brief - about 125 rifle TARGETS, 110 pistol, 24 optional birdshot/pistol, 97 birdshot, 5 slugs
You need a rifle sling, but NO a shotgun sling.
See you all soon!
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We're getting close! We still have a few slots left and our prize table is growing, so don't worry about that! :-)
http://johnson3gun.webs.com/p-t-match-july-8-9-2017
Thanks to all our amazing sponsors: Of course, Nightforce our amazing match sponsor. Barnes Precision, Bartlein Barrels, Bruno's Pizza and wings, Burris Optics, Defiance Machine, Double Tap Ammo, Ergo Grips, Geissele, Hexmag, Hodgdon, Hornady, Kelbly, Knight's Armament, Lapua/Vihtavouri, No Name Tactical, Owens Armory, Pro Ears, Proof REsearch, Rocky Mountain Targets, Seekins Precision, Sierra Bullets, Silencerco, Starline Brass, Thunder Beast Arms Corps, Troy Industries, Truckvault, Warne Scope Mounts, Whidden Gun Works, XLR Industries and XS Sights!!
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Sorry to bug you!
Do we have round counts available yet?
Do we need buckshot??
Thanks!
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1 hour ago, Spartan-6 said:
Good afternoon, shooters. The match director (Jim Smith) has asked me to post a slip in the match dates of 1 week. There has been a scheduling conflict with the range and the match is now Friday-6OCT thru Sunday-8OCT. Range officers may shoot Wed and Thur or just Thursday as in years past.
Hopefully this isn't a show stopper for anyone. I'll pass along more information as it's available.
Best regards,
Brook... aka
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Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWell poop!! I just made non-refundable family plans for that weekend...literally, yesterday!
Dang it!
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On 5/19/2017 at 6:02 PM, kurtm said:
If that was pointed at Dave, he is "special"! If that was pointed at me, I would say this particular R.O. was absolutely CLUELESS. The rest???? Well we are talking about the Rio guys ?
Dave said our RO's were mean!
I never said YOU were mean...but I did laugh my butt off when you told that guy at Ft Benning who was trying to keep the jeep from rolling away that he was still on the clock!
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Congratulations to:
1st He-Man Iron - Mike Payne
2nd He-Man Iron - Kuan Watson
1st He-Man Iron - Curtis Brotherston
Top He-Man Iron Law - Kuan Watson
Top He-Man Iron Military - Curtis Bortherston
Top He-Man Iron Senior - Brian Moffett
Top He-Man Iron Super Senior - Glenn Pointer
1st He-Man Scope - Glenn Shelby
2nd He-Man Scope - Jared Milinazzo
3rd He-Man Scope - Rich Boyes
Top He-Man Scope Law - Lance Lazoff
Top He-Man Scope Military - Rich Boyes
Top He-Man Scope Senior - Lance Lazoff
Top He-Man Scope Super Senior - Don Bednorz
Top He-Man Lady - Diana Driscoll
Top He-Man Junior - Maize McMurry
1st wee-man - Craig Calkins
2nd wee-man - Matt Young
3rd wee-man - David Hill
Top wee-Law - Craig Calkins
Top wee-Military - Joel Hatfield
Top wee-lady - Amanda Hill
Top wee-junior - Steven Warren
Top wee-senior - Bill Lhotta
Top wee-Super Senior - Phil Hinds
It was a fun match and good to see all of you there.
Pictures are on Facebook at: https://www.facebook.com/HemanNationals/
AND are uploading onto our SmugMug account at: https://rm3gun.smugmug.com/
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Staff shoot starts tomorrow!
Should be pretty exciting!
Time limit is 300 seconds for stages 1 and 3-7. 360 seconds for stage 2 - all rifle!
People probably won't take that long, but at least they will get to most of the targets!
Check us out on Facebook!
Will be trying to post pictures!
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1 hour ago, kurtm said:
And I still laugh about the time they were going to D.Q. you!!! You can't fix stupid!!!!! Mean while I was told NO TRACER AMMO!!!! with Nozzler ballistic tips!!! Damn orange tips!!!! And at J.J.'s match no less! Gotta love Dave Mosier! You ought to have him back J.J. it was fun for everyone!
He's says our RO's are too mean! LOL!
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I know lots of people shoot at their own steel and nothing bad happens. I get it!
BUT, first Johnson 3-Gun, factory .308 winchester...turned out to have bimetal jacketting. Right through the targets, not a dimple, a hole. This was back in 2007...so we didn't have the magnet rule, we just said steel core was a no no.
The guy (a good friend and a good guy...bought new factory to be safe) knocked down the target...he was first shooter. Went down to fix it, and there were holes in ALL of our targets that he had hit. He was crushed. Got his wife to bring him some other stuff.
Same thing happened with .223.
You say it's the speed...well, are you chrono'ing??? USPSA doesn't even chrono anymore. So, setting a speed limit means nothing if you don't back it up.
Why do we have that rule? Could it be the guy that put expensive rounds on top for the magnet??? That's why we often magnet before and after...that was steel core.
There was a while that one rule set (I think Superstition or maybe USPSA when they still chrono'd) let you cut one of your bullets up...they had the tool to cut it and then you could prove what the core was made of. I think that's a waste of time.
Some golf courses say you can't wear steel cleats. Do all steal cletes screw up the grass? Nope. Their grass, their rules.
Does magneting the ammo save the targets all the time? Nope. People sneak by. But, if you don't shoot rounds that stick to a magnet, we have a better chance of making our targets last longer. Since we put out over 80 steel rifle targets at a match, that is a bonus for us.
Our targets, our rules.
It's great you're trying to experiment and see what damages targets, but in the end, be it hot rounds, or bimetal, or steel core, or tracer, or green tips, your targets re going to get shot up and you're going to have to replace them. Soft steel that is really dimpled is dangerous up close...and it totally depends on your target. Straps take the hits a little better than short action flashers (metal mans, Rocky Mountain Targets flashers) and they take the hits better than the old angle iron attachment MGM's, which take the hits better than stationary steel. It all depends on how fast the target moves to get out of the way and let the bullet deflect.
We aren't going to change our rules any time soon (even if 3GN did) because we need to try to make our steel last as long as possible. We use rifle steel under 100 or around 100 OFTEN, so we know those targets are going to take a beating....especially at He-Man. (You should've seen our little pesky poppers hung up as flashers after He-Man a few years ago. They made it through the match...but they were a mess. No bullet holes either, and they were at 100 yards with tons of .308's and some .223's punching them. But, they were cracked and dimpled, and sad! Magnetting helped save us holes so they did make it through the match.)
Sorry this is long. And have some fun testing steel. Shooting is always a good thing!
My $.02!
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I'm trying...but the weather gods don't always listen to me!
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Check out our Facebook page for better descriptions of the stages and lots of pictures!
We also have an amazing group of sponsors! http://heman3gun.webs.com/ https://www.facebook.com/HemanNationals/
Just 2 weeks! Aargh!!!!!
Can't wait to see you all!
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Check out our Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/PrecisionTactical2Rifle/
For sponsors, the way the match works and LOTS of pictures!!!
This match is getting closer and I think it's going to be better than last year!
30+ rds shotgun stage - Is this necessary in 3-Gun match?
in Multi-gun Rules / Stage Design / Match Administration
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Me too!