MarcO

Thanks for the info mr. moto! Much appreciated

I received an email from Briley yesterday talking about their trigger modification for the Benelli. Has anyone here shot one, and what are your impressions?

I apologize if I have missed this somewhere, but is there a published estimated round count for this match yet?

Just to clarify - No compensators of any kind on the rifles? The last year or two Mike was allowing rifle compensators as long as they were unobtrusive and of similar size and shape of a flashider. He wouldn't allow the JP tankbuster but he was allowing a lot of others. Trying to figure out if I'm going to have to install a different front end on my rifle. Thanks

EricM "Thanks, MarcO!! I would be interested in 1991 to 1994, as I have all the rest myself. .....and believe me, we're looking at them :" How about you skip the rifle standards stage with the 35mph crosswind blowing sand so hard you couldn't see the targets? That would be a good one to skip.

I'm not sure if the match planners have any interest in this or not but I think I have 8 or 9 years of match stages from 1991 to 2003 somewhere. If you want a nostalgia factor I would be happy to email them to you for consideration.

OK - This trigger is too expensive and doesn't offer any advantages over the JP trigger that I already have. Time to go practice. Thanks to everyone for your input.

Does anyone have any experience with the Tac-Com 3MR trigger for 3 gun? A recent article in Small Arms Review was very positive about this trigger system for 3 gun. It's pretty expensive at $495.00 retail, and I am very happy with my JP triggers but my weakness is getting off really quick 2nd and 3rd shots at close in targets and I'm curious if this trigger would give an advantage. Thanks in advance for your input.

This was a really fun event for a great cause. Kudos to Gregg Lewis for everything he did to make this happen - it wouldn't have happened without him. Pat yourself on the back Gregg! 15K is a really big deal!

Thank you gentlemen - V-Tac it is.

First of all - Thanks in advance for everyone's input. I just saw that we are going to need a sling for our shotgun for the northwest multigun match in Bend this year and I can't find anyone that make a universal style sling that will fit the Salient Benelli. I can buy a magazine sling attachment from Brownells but I can't find a sling with any kind of a universal attachment for the buttstock or pistol grip. Anybody have any suggestions??

Thank you gentlemen! It appears that I have three options. Much appreciated input.

I lucked out and ordered a JP 223 CTR upper receiver with the LMOS bolt system about a month before the madness began and received it several weeks ago. I had ordered this upper to replace the upper on my circa 1994 JP rifle that was beginning to shoot a little too loose. I had planned to continue shooting the old upper as a blaster and use the new upper as my new match gun but still using the same lower. Unfortunately for me, the upper does not fit on the old JP lower as the front lug has a different dimension and the receivers will not close. Under normal circumstances I would have just turned around and ordered a new ready built lower from JP but that isn't going to be an option for a long time. I do have another rifle made by LMT whose lower the JP upper fits on and seems to function well with when hand cycled. However, the LMT has a carbine stock and it appears that the required LMOS buffer will not fit in a carbine length buffer tube. So I was going to replace the buttstock but then got to thinking that I might be able to use the bolt that was supplied with the CTR in a standard weight JP bolt carrier (which I have) as an option to replacing the buttstock. My question is do I need to worry about headspacing if I use the correct bolt with a standard weight JP bolt carrier? Or should I just go and get a rifle length buffer tube and a different buttstock? Thanks to all for your input.

Thought maybe I should offer an update. The bolt that came with the JP upper was not ramped. JP did some research and informed me that their bolts were not compatible with the CMMG lower, but that one of their employees had just purchased a CMMG lower to build a 9mm rifle and they would be happy to modify the bolt to work. I shipped the bolt to them a couple of weeks ago and received the new bolt last week. I have not had a chance to shoot it but everything appears to work perfectly. My thanks to JP for standing behind their product.

Yep, I new this was going to be difficult. I'm more than willing to wait for the gun, but do you think if you placed an order for a gun with JP, and the ban goes through before they can complete the build, would they still be allowed to honor the order anyway? This happened to me in 94 during the first ban. I had a rifle on order and the ban took effect. They had to modify the rifle to meet the new rules that took effect after I placed the order but before the rifle was built. Instead of a bayonet lug and flash suppressor which were standard at the time I got a "barrel harmonic tuning device" and not bayonet lug. JP will do everything they can to fill the order but they will absolutely follow the letter of the law, as they should.

This has been an interesting day. I talked to the JP rep Wednesday and he diagnosed my problem as most likely the ejector being too high. Today I took out the hammer and the bolt still wouldn't cycle. I then inked the ejector and to my surprise - there was no ink transfer to the bolt. In looking closer it appeared that the bolt hold-open device was interacting with the bolt. I removed it, and everything worked perfectly. Only problem was that the bolt hold-open device was exactly spec-ed out when compared to other lowers. So I turned my attention to the bolt itself and it appears to have a "reverse ramp" built into it. Where you would expect a ramped bolt to taper down, this one tapers up! Closer inspection makes it appear that someone missed a machining step in the bolt manufacture. At the very least you would expect this surface of the bolt to remain constant and parallel to the upper part of the bolt carrier. At best you would expect it to have a "ramp" that goes in the opposite direction. To test it, I borrowed a friends CMMG ramped bolt today and it cycled with no problems and fired 5 rounds without a hiccup. I have sent an email to JP along with photos and expect to have a positive conversation on Monday.

I called and spoke to the JP engineer today (he called me back at 1800 Eastern - thats service on the day before a holiday!) and they feel it is most likely the ejector. I am going to take the hammer out of the lower tomorrow and that will identify if the ejector is the issue or not. I'm feeling a lot better after talking to them. Best wishes for an awesome thanksgiving to all the forum members!!

As shipped from JP the bolt is not ramped. While this would help I don't think it's the base issue as the bolt is locked up tight for its entire travel and you can see where the hammer is dragging on the bolt.

OK - I just purchased a complete JP 9mm upper to use in local carbine matches. I have a dedicated 9mm CMMG lower receiver that I was going to use to complete the rifle. The JP upper drops right onto the lower no problem without the bolt. With the bolt in place it is difficult to get the lower to fit and there is some severe friction when I go to cycle the bolt. It is apparent that the hammer is dragging on the bolt to the point where it is almost impossible to cycle. There is no evidence of the ejector or any other part dragging on the bolt. Not sure if this is a hammer issue (the hammer rides much higher that my 223 JP lower) or a bolt issue. I did purchase a JP trigger and hammer kit but have not tried to install them yet and probably won't until I can resolve this Anybody here shed some light on what I need to do to resolve this?

Great Match Brian. Will scores be emailed or posted to the website?

Thanks to Chuck and Ian for taking the time to explain the selection criteria. Understandable logic. Sounds like it will be a kick in the butt. I am jealous, but then I'm an old fart and I doubt I could stay up that late.

Just out of curiosity, what was the basis for who received an invitation? Participating in the the NW multigun just prior and then some other additional criteria?

I understand that many of the matches are now allowing a non-magnifying red dot scope to be used in limited. Considering trying this in Heavy Metal but don't really have a good grasp of what the best optic would be. I have a trijicon reflex with the small dot that I can start to play with, but I'm curious what all of you would use.

This is exactly what I needed to know. Thanks for the response! Yes, a lot. Jamie Foote was flopping all over the ground showing not only how sturdy it was, but that the shells stay in place. There were several used at Iron Man, all stages, with several times going prone with the rifle prior to shooting the shotguns. All the shells were still there and no issues at all.

Anybody used the chest rig in a match where they had to go to near-prone or prone? Just wondering how sturdy this thing is and if you lose rounds or break anything if you have to go belly down. Works for West: