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Oh i see..that’s probably why im having a difficult time figuring out the proper tension on this hd extractor..i’ll try to tension it on the looser side the way you suggested..hope this solves my ftrb..

I’ll try adjusting the tension of the extractor as some of you suggested..btw how do you test extractor tension on a egw hd extractor without live fire? Ive tried the shake test but it doesn’t seem to work on the hd extractor..the case would either not drop when shaken unless i tap the slide with my other hand or when i slightly adjust it to have lesser tension, it will only hold the case for a couple of shakes then it will fall out which would indicate loose extractor tension..i’ve done extractor tension tuning on my other open gun with a different extractor and it seems not that difficult to tune compared to the egw hd..

I think its not the disconnector, i don’t feel any hang up when i slowly rack the slide..im running 9lbs recoil spring..

About 0.0005” to 0.0010” before it completely closes..it really almost returns to battery until the very last few moments before it closes, then it happens..to check tension, what should i look for when slowly rack the slide?

I have an open blaster that’s been having occasional failures to return to battery..the round would almost fully get into the chamber and then stops just before the slide closes..a slight push on the rear portion of the slide would then chamber it..this only happens during live fire..this failure never occur when i rack it manually and the rounds are ejecting consistently at 3:00-4:00both in live fire and by manually racking it..my cases all pass the gauge..one thing i noticed though, as i was watching atlas extractor tension test was that the case on my extractor as i was doing the extractor test, wont drop free out the slide even after shaking it a lot of times it only goes out if i lightly tap it a couple of times against my other hand while shaking it..could this be the culprit? I have an egw hd extractor in it but i’ve read somewhere in the forums that the extractor shake test does not apply to egw hd extractors..

I’ve tested both similar setups but with an open gun. One has a polymer grip which i’ll refer to as the (high performance) setup and the other one with a steel grip (soft shooting) setup..i would say i love the lighter setup felt like i was faster with it but man, the metal grip really does settle the dot better..Now i’m looking for a setup thats an “in-between” the two you posted..4.6” , full dust cover, steel grip w/ al mainspring and al magwell maybe? CHA-LEE If you were to have a lim optic gun what features would you want to have?

Thanks for the input guys. Appreciate it. Upon weighing on what you guys suggested. i think i’ll settle with a steel gripped, 4.6” non tungsten sleeved barrel for my lim optic build. I believe this will be heavy enough that the gun wont feel bouncy during recoil and still fast on transitions and follow up shots due to the shorter slide length..

How do you achieve this? Steel grip with a 5 inch slide no butler cut? Or is it with a shorter slide..i have a limited gun with steel grip, 5” slide and tungsten sleeved barrel and it’s nose heavy.

Wow! And i thought my limited gun was already very heavy. If i wanted a fast cycling gun you suggest i go with a lightened 4.6 slide right? How about the return to zero is it really that much better than a 5” lightened slide? I apologize for the noob questions i just want to have inputs on actual experiences on both setups before having my limited optic gun built so as to make it built right the first time around.

Have you shot both a 5 inch slide with a shorter one say 4.6” how do they compare? I’m asking this because 4.6” seems to be all the rage right now and a lot of the custom builders are using this setup for limited optics..i’ve shot limited major before and find the 5” slides to be sluggish especially with a tungsten sleeve. And it got me wondering if it will also feel sluggish if its in 9 minor? I absolutely don’t have any experience shooting 2011’s in 9..

I’m not considering a sight block or a comp at the moment since comps are not allowed and ipsc rules might not allow sight blocks also when the division gets approved by them. That’s why i came into the conclusion of having a tungsten sleeved barrel instead.

Need opinions on what would be the ultimate limited optic build. My objective is to both have a flat shooting gun with a fast slide cycle in 9 minor. I would like it to shoot and feel as close to an open gun as much as possible. I know it’s impossible to achieve without a comp but i would like to ask for opinions on how to perhaps replicate an open gun’s behavior during shooting. Im thinking this configuration will somewhat achieve this? 1. 4.6” slide for faster slide cycle 2. tungsten sleeved barrel for lesser recoil 3. steel grip 4. Steel frame 5. butler cut (to compensate with the tungsten sleeve’s weight so it won’t be front heavy) 6. Would a 48-53 oz total weight without mag be optimal for a lim optic gun?

will this fit on an atlas romeo 3xl mount without modificarion?

wow! and i thought my limited blaster was already super heavy. those are heavy guns you have there. i may have to try a steel grip on my open gun if it really does make the dot settle better.

which of the 2 do you like better? i have an open gun with a steel comp and plastic grip..and i like the weight of it..also have a limited gun with tungsten sleeve and steel grip around 54oz and i find it hard to transition.. was wondering how much a heavy steel grip on an open gun would help..does it help settle the dot better?