granderojo

COOL!!!!!!!!!! HAPPY HOLIDAYS to you and yours + to all here. Granderojo

1.1.5 does not apply nor is it relevant in this case. The mandatory reload is because of App. D for revolvers as has been stated. It would be the same for Production or Limited 10 if a competitor in either class took more that the alotted number of shots as described in App. D for the class that they are shooting. 10.2.4 says nothing about course of fire! Scenario 1 would get 4 procedurals and scenario 2 would get 2 procedurals.

mhs, You're welcome to file for arbiration if you like to satisfy your answer. Be advised that you will need to put up $100 to file for arbitration on this or any other matter that you feel like is being incorrectly applied or wrong. See chapter 11 pg 50 #11.3.1. If you don't have a current rule book, it's available on the USPSA web site. See Appendix D 6 -- Revolver Division pg. 78 # 9 "Maximum ammunition capacity --- No, maximum of 6 rounds fired before reload" Granderojo I am a certified and current. NROI RO. Hopefully this will answer your question and resolve the issue. BTW See chapter pg 43 #10.2.4 . "A competitor who fails to comply with a mandatory reload will incur a procedural for each shot fired after the point where the required reload was required until a reload is performed." In the case of a revolver, that's where the 6th shot is fired. You could have had this one enforced as well.

I used the same procedure as Griz except I cut out the side of a 40 cal case and used that as a shim (.010" thick). Still double push forward to seat primer as added insurance. Works good for me.

+2 on this. I've bought 3 hammers form Brownells and the same question was asked "What form of payment would you like to use?"

Ypu might try loosening the two bolts that hold the primer assy to the press. There might be a little play there, enough to center the primer seating tool. If not, give the folks at Dillon a call, they have been very helpful in resolving the few problems I've had w/my 650.

Out of the Kart barrel in my 5" 1911 it takes 5.1 gr of TG behind a 200 SWC moly coated to make major PF. (875fps=177pf). Glock barrelss make more power than others. Saw that at the chrono at match this summer. Same rounds that wouldn't make PF out of a 5" 9mm 1911 made it w/some to spare out of the shooters Glock 34.

231 is a very nasty burning powder. Tightgroup is a fairly hot and fast burning powder according to the burn charts that I've seen. One of the moly bullet makers reccomends NOT to use it w/ their product. It will burn the coating off the back of the bullet and stream lead down the barrel. I speak from experience on this problem. I didn't find this out for a long time (should have read the info on his web site). Also, TG is very temp sensitive. Changed powders and the problem went away. Should work w/plated bullets. If you want to use Win powder, try WST or WSF and see if you like either. I know several round gunners that are happy w/SOLO 1000. As has been said, if the chambers aren't staying clean, you'll have to brush between stages. No other choice. The good crimp is important. One good check to see if your crimp is suffient is to look at your unshot bullets when you shoot only 4 or 5 form the cylinder. If the bullet is pulling out of the cartridge on the remaining bullets not shot, your crimp is too loose. A positive stroke on the ejector helps as well. Hope this is of some help. FYI, very few of even the factroy .38+P ammo will make PF. We DQed a couple of SSR shooters at a major match earlier this year for that! I haven't found ANY non +P that will make it. Good luck, Granderojo

You need to put the shim under the primer seating device. I can't remember how it is installed on the press, it's been too long since I loaded on a 550. Should be able to losen tht bolt that holds the assembly to the body of the press and slide it under the punch end and the press, then tighten the bolt down. Waltermitty says that's what he did to his 550. I cut out the side of a 40 case (about .010 on the discharge end). Run a few cases through and check the seated depth.

Try 2 foward pushes on the handle when seating the primer. They should be about .010 below flush. You can check the depth w/ the end of your caliper that comes out as you open it up. If that doesn't get it, there's always the hand priming tools. I use a 650 and made a shim for the seating punch that is .010 thick, placed under the seating assembly. I can't remember if the 550 has the same seating assy as the 650. If it does, this has worked for me. I still use a double push, hard to change old habbits. Hope this helps.

You might try Tool Guy who posts on this forum. He makes sights to order for height.

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I've heard these responses every time the name (Billy Bullets) comes up. Nothing like happy and satisfied customers and good personal referals. Hard combination to beat.

Take a look at the Comp III's and the Jet Loaders. Lots of folks use these. Not trying to drift the thread.

Cabelas in Buda Tx. says they have Magtec in both Lg and Sm pistol primers in stock. Hopefully that means that all of their stores have them or can get them. One of the area gun stores got in 42K of Fed last week and sold all in 2 days at 1k limit per customer. Maybe things are getting better.

Jim, I'm aware that his PF doesn't have to be more than 125. The reason for asking if the loads were over 125 and if there were others in his class having trouble making it go down was because if they were, then the target was set too hard, given of course they were good hits. But they don't have to be ANY above f 125. What other people shoot does not matter. Actually, they only have to be f 125 out of a 4" barrel. If he is shooting a shorter barrel there is no requirement for performance out of his own gun. Steel must be set light so anybody with a legitimate rig can complete the CoF.

Seems to me that the real point is that the COF "said" that the steel had to fall BEFORE engaging the next paper. So with that said, he should have gotten a PE for not following the COF as written in addition to any other points down (FTN etc). just my 2ctsw

Did any of the other 20+ SSR shooters have any problems knocking the steel down? In my experience, if you don't hand load for SSR, there's very few Factory loads that make PF (most have to be at least +P or +P+ to make it). If any of the other SSR shoters had the same problem and the hits were good ones, then they should have looked at the sensitivity setting on the popper. If he chronos his loads, how much above the 125 PF are his? Just a couple of things to think about and only my 2ctsw.

Some warranty!! Who keeps proof of a purchase years after the sale. They just shot themselves in the foot as far as keeping the prices and sales up on the used guns. I'd pay more for a good used gun if I thought that they would stand behind it, espically after a MAJOR failure like this. From the posts on this thread, this is not the first time that this has happened. Oh well, not my sales that are going to suffer. They must be making lots of money. Just my 2ctw

Doug, If they fit your chamber, the gun should run! What difference does it make if it fits in a case gague, as long as they fit in your chamber. If you're reloading for someone else, than it might matter. As I said, the best case gague is the chamber of the gun that the bullets are going to be used in. I agree that you should use two seperate dies, one for seating and one for crimping. I've used Dilllon dies for many rounds and they work flawlessly. You don't need the whole set for 45. Use anyones seating die that you like and the Dillon crimp die. I set the crimp at .468"-.469" for coated lead bullets and it has worked for me for lots of rounds. If you don't like the Dillon depriming/resizing die, try the U die from EGW. That's a SERIUOS resizing die/deprimer. I haven't seen a need to use the U die for 45s. The pressures aren't that high that it's an issue, unlike 40 cal, Glock shot brass. I personaly use the Dillon for autos and the EGW for Revo bullets. Did you ever measure the ID of both case gagues? Dave

Ask this questioin on the Revo forum and you'll get lots of load info on Clays. Very popular powder. You can do a search in the Revo forum on Clays as well. Hope this helps.

I'd call that pretty stable. Tom, if you do your own test, please post the results for comparison. It would be great if they turned out the same. My 2ctsw.

Hey Doug, What is the dia. around the bullet on a completed round? My bullets measure .4515 and I haven't had any problems w/finished bullet. That would indicate that your bullet OD isn't the problem. What brand crimp die are you using and does it size the completed bullet at the same time like the Dillon die does? Check the ID both case gagues. Mistakes happen. The chamber is the BEST case gague. If they go all the way in, run them if you're not having any feeding problems. Feel free to contact me if I can be of any more help. Dave

You might want to revisit your Billys w/ the Clays. You might be very pleasantly supprised with the outcome and save a lot of $ over JHPs. Mod your loader skirts as well. Granderojo

Thanks Jim for correcting my mistake. You have to start w/the hammer in the decocked position. My appologies for the misinformation. Granderojo