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I've been thinking about the extra mag ... hmmm ... I'm not saying I am an expert shot, but given where I live I don't think an extra mag would be necessary. I might need to rethink the extra mag pouch option before I actually buy. I have several friends who carry appendix with that option, and they say the extra weight of a full 15/17 round magazine is the only negative. I normally carry OWB higher on my belt with a longer shirt and no extra magazine. Thanks for your experience

I wouldn't say I was carrying a 9lb turkey up front, but I am no lean chicken either LOL ... Looking for suggestions regarding appendix carry for those who are a little thicker in the spare tire area. I am currently looking at a TXC Ally for appendix carry. From all the reviews and videos I have watched it's one that is big guy friendly Thanks Rick

You're going to have really nice setup, very similar to my Legion. I love everything about the 320 Franken builds everyone is working on. I was contemplating doing one of those builds with the 320 XCarry and the Legion TXG.

Just starting building my 6mm ARC with Odin internals coupled with our LGS upper/lower/rail set. I am definitely looking forward to seeing your successes with reloads, and may start that effort as my buddy has one. What dies are you using?

It took me a few tries to get everything lined up, but when it did it simply "clicked" into place. If my memory serves me right, in one of the videos or on one the paperowrk that came with it, the AC was not tested with the GG kit... can't seem to find it again, but none the less everything seems to be running fine with my setup.

Zero value to the conversation... move along please

8.2.1 The firearm is prepared as specified in the written stage briefing and is in compliance with the requirements of the relevant Division. 8.2.2 The competitor assumes the start position as specified in the written stage briefing... 8.3 Range Communication... "The approved range commands and their sequence are as follows:" discussed already, basically discussing Communication, and refers to Written Stage Briefs as well. 10.5.19... refer to the conversation above. In the best interest of safety, I don't / won't purposefully let anything slide. Nice try though Schultz

I am merely playing devils advocate for information and educational purposes of course, and I'm sure many of you have taken this opportunity to looked through the rule book regarding everything that has been said. Simply put, this is good conversation, and that should always be the main purpose. My PCC is extended and the dot is on well before the match begins, and it stays like that for the duration of the match. Why, because I have had, seen, and heard this conversation at a match, and to eliminate any future issue I simply have it setup like this to avoid conflicts with any staff members... I've seen shooter's lose these battle more often than I have seen them win. Where we run into issues is when we start interjecting things like IVC said "it is natural to start peeking at the sight to make sure the dot is on..." I mostly agree with you because it does lead to the firearm being pointed in an unsafe direction which would typically not be down range. I get it, and I agree that would make for unsafe firearms handling and warrant a DQ, but we need to give people the opportunity to succeed before immediately assuming everyone will be unsafe pushing a button or extending a stock. I read back through this post because it is getting fairly lengthy... I agree with everyone regarding firearm and shooter safety, I agree that new shooters may need a a helping hand regarding firearm safety and what could happen "if...", seasoned shooters should know the rules fairly well, and common sense is not a super power like many people say it is... sometimes shooters don't think things through all the way cause we weren't paying attention or whatever a persons excuse might be. FINAL THOUGHTS... An RO's job is a very stressful one, the RO should always keep the environment as stress free as possible, and shooters should be doing their best to help out as well.

"All other gun handling with the PCC, e.g., sight pictures, turning dots on/off, etc., must be accomplished in a safety area or under the direct supervision of a Range Officer" The word "or" is used to link alternatives... This rules allows other options while under the direct supervision of the RO... I go back to my previous input regarding 8.3.1 ... unless it is specifically written in the stage briefs that all manipulation will "only" be done in the safe area or after the "make ready" it's still not a blatant DQ. IVC, you are reading to reply, and failing to understand the full context of the rule Obviously SGT, Sarge , and I interpret these rules a little different from each other, but nothing directly states that turning a dot on or stock being extended must only be done at a specific area or after a command of make ready.

Unless of course you actually write that into your stage briefs IAW 8.3.1 ... then, and only then I would agree it is a DQ. But we all know nobody writes stage briefs to that level of detail. God only know how many times I’ve been counseled about having too much detail in my stage briefs rofl... it seems I learn something new each time I write them... too much, not enough, so I have accepted I cannot make every shooter happy

You have yet to show let alone prove that extending a stock or turning an optic on is grounds for a DQ other than your interpretation... and you wonder why it would be easy to convince range leadership that an RO is letting authority go to their head. You make it too easy

Well... at least we agree on one thing Be safe gent’s, have fun, and good luck during your matches

Oh I have had discussions with many RM’s, CRO’s, GM’s, and shooters in general and I’ve had no problem convincing range leadership that certain RO’s like you and the Sarge let a position of authority go to your head. Y’all start having a bad day or whatever sets you off, and then you break out the magnifying glass so you can dig deeper into “your understanding” of the rule book. Again, you both need to stop reading for a response only, and look at the definition of supervision. As the RO I do not need to hold your hand from the berm or the safe area to have control of what’s going on in the bay or with the squad... simply leave the chamber flag in your PCC while your moving safely with your firearm pointed in a safe direction (normally up) to the start position. Nowhere does it say in the rule book that extending a stock or pushing a button (or switch) is grounds for DQ prior to the make ready command. Y’all are seriously acting like the soft spots on an Apple of this sport...

Y'all need to read to understand instead of read to respond... I take all shooting aspect serious, but many of you make the rumors true about the RO's who like the power of "control" ... maybe some of you need to actually look at the definition of supervise.

Cause you're obviously one of the over zealous RO's... a microscope give you the "control" that makes you fell good about yourself apparently

We’ve basically reduced our matches to ~125 rounds, and our MultiGun matches have been cancelled mainly because of weather more than ammo shortages

We have a couple in our LGS... I was able to fondle it for some time, but it makes me even less of a Glock fan. It felt very “plastic” but that probably because most Glocks we sell get sent to our back shop for stippling. It’s definitely one of those relics that can be appreciated for its age though.

Another icon that will never be forgotten...

I’ve been using Lucas Gun Oil since I found a little 4oz bottle at OReiley’s.... all my guns seem to love it, I don’t need much before it’s spread all over, and it’ll last entire match or range day no issues. I need to make my way back to get some more. I run it in all my Legions, Max Michel and Dan Wesson 1911’s, STI’s, rifles, and even run it in my shotgun.

I RO a lot, way more than I'd like sometimes, but I do follow the rules. If the shooter is under my direct supervision and safely turns their dot on, then there is no reason to DQ them. Right? There are plenty of scenarios we can "what if" to death... what if a shooters shoe comes untied during a CoF, that is a definite safety issue that could cause a tripping hazard, should we DQ them? C'mon guys, let's get real, we RO because the MD and CRO trust our decisions, our abilities, and know we will provide a safe and fun environment. Put the microscopes away

"10.5.19 ... All other gun handling with the PCC, e.g., sight pictures, turning dots on/off, etc., must be accomplished in a safety area or under the direct supervision of a Range Officer." I'm not DQing someone for turning their dot on especially when I'm the RO ... there is a big difference between pushing a button and manipulating the device. I've never seen anyone try to get a sight picture anywhere but the CoF or a safe area and many will admit that is because of common sense. Most of us turn the dot on before the match and leave it on for the entirety anyway. Common sense applies more often than you think, some shooters should probably apply it a little more, but unfortunately some shooters need rules to keep their center ...

Chamber flag is in, extend the stock, turn the optic on, and safely move to the "hole" position to await my turn.... "common sense" movements is basically how we do it. If you're going to make any adjustments then shooter know to make their way to the safe zone and adjustment as needed. I have to agree with the comment above about some over zealous RO's who might let the position go to their head and take advantage of the situation. We're all here to have fun, improve our skillset (if needed), and enjoy the company of others with similar interests. All that goes out the door when shooters start using a microscope to interpret rules... similar to a Career Politician ... lol But my Free Nickel's worth of advice is only worth about $.02 now days

I simply remind shooters the longer it takes to reset, the longer it takes to get the next shooter up, and that typically gets enough motivation to get shooter back at it. We also paste as the RO and Scorer move around the stage, so we only need like 2 pasters at a time to get the job done. I won't allow the Shooter, On Deck, or In the Hole shooter to partake though.

I was thinking the same thing, but they had a bar code on them as well. I tried to scan the bar code, but no luck... even Google return a "0 results"

I mounted it on my X5 Legion... I can track this one better than the Burris FF3 I had on my Glock 34. The FF3 is a good optic, but the R1Pro definitely has a larger viewing area.