I have not bought from those places...I live in NJ and Bestrow won't ship there. For over two years I've bought stuff (thousands of rounds) exclusively online from places like Tactical Surplus, Shaw Armament, Saint Barbs and Recoil Gunworks. Anything is possible, but I've yet to be F'd over. And I'm referring to decent 9mm 115gr, 124gr, 147gr and 150gr. 115gr stuff was 22 cents to 28 cents per round before shipping.