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  1. @MemphisMechanic I'll do that. A lot of the tinkering is mostly just to see what's possible. I think there's a lot of value in what you and @mrd mentioned, so I'll probably back off just a bit on the over-travel and see how it treats me at the range. Now if only ammo would come back in stock, and at pre-COVID prices!
  2. @Hdiamond I am absolutely 100% sure I got the poly PPQ version. I guess it's possible the one I got was just sightly off, but based on what the tech said on the phone and my previous testing when I removed the over-travel stop, they seem to be designed to only fully disengage the firing pin block when the trigger is fully pressed to the rear, past the trigger break.
  3. Update: Even after having attached the Apex bar to the Overwatch shoe, it turned out that the firing pin block Still wasn't moving enough out of the way to allow a completely clear path for the striker. To me, this would mean that there's something different about the geometry of the Apex trigger shoe that causes the trigger bar to be positioned farther back while at rest, therefore allowing the firing pin block to engage earlier/more quickly with the ramp on the bar and allow full clearance even with no over-travel. Anyway, I think I found another workaround this time that still p
  4. @mrd It's interesting you say that, as I've actually heard a pro shooter (I don't remember who) say the exact same thing. I've honestly never tested the accuracy of my shooting using more vs less over-travel, but that definitely seems like a useful test to do. Thanks!
  5. I successfully swapped the trigger shoe of the Overwatch onto the trigger bar of the Apex. It was easy to punch out the roll pin of each and make the swap. Function checking it seems like it works just fine. I added the tape over-travel stop to the most extreme point where I would want it, did the pen/pencil test, and am seeing pretty positive results. I don't know it the pen is going Quite as high as it did with no over-travel stop, but it's definitely better than the Overwatch trigger was at the equivalent over-travel settings. So, the final step will be to test it at the range, but I'm feel
  6. Thanks for attaching the videos. Since I Do have the Apex to play with, I'll see about getting those pins out and playing around with it tonight or tomorrow. I'll report back with my findings.
  7. @a_whole_lot_of_freedom you're completely correct... If you could put the trigger shoe of the OP on the Apex trigger bar (and polish the Apex bar, because it's not nearly as nicely costed as the OP), it would be perfection. However, looking at pictures right now of both trigger bars, the trigger shoes appear to connect to the trigger bars differently, but I can't quite tell... The Apex has two pins in it, and the OP has one... I would be Very interested if you or someone else on this forum could determine if that swap could actually be done!
  8. The problem and fix have been confirmed. @a_whole_lot_of_freedom, your theory was correct.First off, I turned the gun over and looked at how the trigger bar interacted with the firing pin block (FPB), and it looks like the Overwatch trigger bar does Not push the FPB fully out of the way at the wall, and only fully moves it out of the way right after the shot breaks. With the over-travel stop on, it was very clearly not moving the FPB enough to let the striker fully clear it. I called Overwatch Precision to ask about this, and they said their triggers are specifically designed to not fully move
  9. Do you know any way to check if the firing pin safety is being completely disengaged without going to the range? I'll hopefully take the gun to the range this week and fire it both as-is and with the firing pin safety completely removed. If it works perfectly with the safety removed, then that's clearly the issue... Which means the trigger bar is not pushing it out of the way enough, right? IF that is the case, then I Might have a theory why that's happening: I have an adjustable over-travel stop in the form of layered electrical tape inside the trigger guard where the
  10. Thanks! I have the adjustable sear engagement set screw mod, plus some lightened springs. But again, I've never had an issue with the Apex trigger. I'm not sure how to tell if the firing pin safety is getting moved fully out of the way, but I'll try to figure that out.
  11. Hi everyone, I was at a USPSA match today and had some malfunctions that I was hoping you fine people might be able to help me with... Like an idiot, I switched out my Apex trigger for the Overwatch Precision trigger on my Q5 (polymer) on Friday for a Saturday match, without testing the equipment at the range first. I look forward to posting a review of the differences later, but I should say that everything felt perfect when function checking the trigger in dry fire. The trigger appeared to reset and break perfectly, with no perceivable issues at all...
  12. I tried doing this same thing initially, but couldn't figure out a good way to make anything stay in place back there behind the trigger bar. I'm extremely interested to see what you came up with, but the PDF you attached seems to be unavailable. Could you please try attaching it again (unless I'm the only one who can't view it)? Thanks!
  13. It is the Apex, but it looks like the OP has that little nub on the back that makes contact with the frame, so it should have the same effect.
  14. I appreciate the tip. Unfortunately, all I have right now is an old Macbook Air with an android phone, and I'm not motivated enough at the moment to figure it all out. Sorry. However, I was at least able to get one image down to size that shows the layered tape, so here ya go (this tape has been on there for about 2.5 years with regular dry fire). If I can spend more time later on figuring out how to post any of the videos of the trigger break + reset, I'll post it. The cool thing about the tape job is that it can be applied to the poly, SF, or any other trigger/frame combo, and makes a H
  15. I know you're looking for Other ideas, but I at least want to assure you that I've had the same layered tape on my Q5 poly for more than two full USPSA seasons, and use the same gun for dry fire and matches. If you compress the tape as you're putting it on by pressing hard on the trigger, and if you make sure the surfaces are clean when you apply the tape, it should really last a very long time. As a comparison, the overtravel screw on my HK USP Tactical is much less consistent. I would leave pictures/videos, but I don't know how since it says the upload size limit is 0.49MB
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