Woodsparrow

Thanks! Guess I'll end up figuring it out the hard way :)

Nolan, you're saying it'll work, no problem? Just double checking before I spend big bucks. Any idea what the length of pull of the comp stock on the tactical model was? That half inch shorter might be good for me.

I found a thread here from about 2014 mentioning that you can take the Extrema 400 stock with Kickoff plus (I may have mangled those names) and put it on a 1301. I really dig the 1301 tactical, but am pretty recoil sensitive. I'd be happy to chuck in a few more bucks if it makes the whole system throw full power 12 gauge with the recoil of a 410 or something. Does that still work? Or have the models changed in the past 8-10 years? What does it change the length of pull to, if anything? I won't ever be wandering around in carriers or armor, so I don't think I need the factory 13" LOP on the tactical model, but it would make it easier for my wife (a petit 5'0" person) to try the shotgun. I don't know if she ever actually will, it's just one of those nice-to-have things if it's possible.

Back in September I took my first foray into NFA items, for my birthday. I bought the UWS stock for my Sig. Fast forward to this weekend, and it was the first time I had to actually run it (Holidays, Covid, indoor gun ranges, etc.). The setup was a Carry P320 slide/barrel, B&T Grip, standalone FCU (so custom shop I guess?). Sig Romeo 1 Pro. It was rampagingly ok. Uncomfortable to hold with a normal grip since it's so close. Smashing the impact of a 9 into a stock the length and width of a finger isn't fun either. So, I figure I'll throw a slightly longer barrel, a comp, and a grip on it to really lean in to the mall-ninja. Maybe work on a fixed stock I don't hate in the future, but for now try drop-on parts that might help a bit. Also keep my eye out for the Flux, or Rampage Alpha, as improvements, since I've already SBR'd the thing. Anyway - I'm thinking a grip because that was sort of naturally where my hand drifted. I'm thinking longer barrel (and/or comp) to extend the blast past that grip and lessen 'blow a finger off' risks. I don't really know jack about comps or grips. So I thought I'd ask advice from anyone who's messed with them more. Price-wise it looks cheaper to actually buy a full size P320 with threaded barrel and swap the carry slide/barrel/grip onto the new FCU, thus producing one carry-size p320 and one SBR'ed p320 with threaded barrel. But, then again, I'm not sure if I should just slap on a threaded carry length barrel and comp that, or if I should use a full length barrel, or a comped full length barrel (with appropriate slide). At this point, it's mostly just a silly range toy that I'm trying to make as fun to shoot as possible, rather than practical. Like I said, I might try working out a fixed wider stock in the future, or working with someone who's actually not an ape with a hammer like me to pin on a telescoping stock with a not-crap buttplate.

Last time I read up on it the Performance FCU is essentially the legion FCU. Which is to say, non-legion guns don't have it, but the FCU is a legion gun. As far as pricing, FCU for 350, grip for 30-50, slide/barrel for 300-400, and you're pretty close to the legion pricing anyway, without even having any mags.

I can see how my post wasn't clear - I don't have a belt at all. I don't even own a cheapo one right now. Pandemic panda weight, nothing fits.

Well, that would suck for me. Guess I'd have to buy a different grip.

Ha. Most of the time my guns are an exercise in the opposite. I really like building things, and having a box of parts that becomes a gun is fun, but if you're buying X, might as well by 'performance Y' for 3$ more instead... Which ends up with me making silly guns half the time.

So KISS principal? I'm fine with being a lazy bum too

This isn't a FS ad. I'll make one eventually, but didn't want to just come in and crap up the place, since the FAQ says it's a common issue. I only mentioned the CZ to explain where I started - you can see that a lot of people talked about gearing and agreed that I over-geared etc. Mostly I hadn't looked at USPSA in a couple years, and forgot the divisions, or what items I would 'need'. Hell, I joined a couple years ago and just don't post much, my last thread was about trying to make a 1911 from parts in 2020 (which I decided was way above my 'glock' skill level for now).

I haven't looked since they came out. But when I did, it was actually cheaper to buy a P320, standard, then reconfigure it to whatever you wanted. Barrel/Slide were the main problem at the time, because buying them alone was a bit harder than it needed to be, and ridiculously expensive, only 1-2 places seemed to make them, and I'd have needed to buy direct from Sig. Especially when you wanted something more roccoco like the Legion - that tungsten infused grip was expensive, as was the cut slide. I think trying to do one with an FCU build was 20% more than just buying it, and the legion was actually easier to buy (FCU being newer and cheaper)

Never would have thought of cleaning a mag like that. I'm also used to non-competition situations where it doesn't much matter if you leave it to dry for a few hours.

I hadn't planned on it this time, but thanks for the advice, I'll make sure I stay away.

I kinda skipped around - wouldn't have thought of calling it a Roland Special or a 'Nemesis', it's always been 'that stupid f*#king gun we can't make work' between my buddy and I. I think he ended up parting it out. I've never seen anybody take full use of the FCU options like this either, it was cool.

I was looking around at the P320 FCU options. Does the standalone, 'custom shop' FCU really do anything interesting when compared to just buying the whole pistol? Seems like it's more expensive for any given application.

Well, I'm sorry for your loss - I worry about the day I have to lose our 1 year old pup myself. It's always hard.

The best time to start was yesterday, as always :). Sure, a lot of people had hard times finding reloading supplies because the ammo crunch was nuts. But I'd guess reloading comes back online a lot faster, all the fair weather reloaders will knock it off once they get reliable ammo.

New to the forum, bumming around old topics, this was pretty cool

Welcome!

Maybe this is a terminology thing, but is 'blue gun' the notoriously plastic training gun that isn't a gun? I've never heard it before. As someone else said, Hi-Cappa is probably best. That was the suggestion I got last time I considered Airsoft.

Yeah. I never envisioned the gear helping - it was just stuff I wanted and I figured it wasn't too expensive (at the time I was single, now I'm married and we've got a 7 year old). It was spiffy having a closet full of fun guns, but now I'm like 'I've got 17 minutes between X and Y if I want to practice something it's got to be specific'.

I used to be in the 'buy once, cry once', category, but I've subsequently wasted too much money and time on over-gearing everything, so now I'm in the 'buy cheap, use it till it breaks, then upgrade' camp.

Yeah, at this point I'm moving from 'real race rig' to 'screw it, can I just show up and try this for once in my life' expectations. I may still buy a couple backup magazines, I prefer to have 5 for anything, just haven't gotten around to it.

So here we're just talking pull the base plate, get the dirt out, maybe a little oil to prevent rust, then re-assemble? So something like a CLP or Clenzoil wipe? I never leave the house for a range-day without at least a couple tools for the given firearms I'm taking, so I should be good there. Too many 'well we drove an hour out to Maypearl and lost one screw so guess we're not shooting today at all'. things.

Yeah, after I went so hard and did nada, I was looking to ease in this time - get to a point where supplies are limiting not skill, maybe. Is 3 magazines enough? Or do you need 5? Can I start with a cheapo belt, or do I 'really need' to start with a competition belt?