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cool, thx. I might try that lanolin lube. I have a similar bottle.
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Heard good things about those. I made another stack of rounds and have a Ladder load for Leverloution ready. Hoping to have more good news soon.
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Hit 600 yd steel with the ARC today. Started by running groups at 100. they were meh... I hade a few at 2450 and sent them down to 2/3/500 easily.
Walked to the long range and scored hits on the 4'x4' sighter steel plate. high right due to wind. landed 4 hits, not the best grouping, but seeing impacts @600 is encouraging.
I did have 1 Failure to feed, but I think it was related to the brass catcher thowing shells back into the chamber. It wasn't as soft shooting as I had hoped. I was hoping to be able to sight the hits, but even at 7x I was off due to muzzle rise - that reminds me I need a muzzle brake duh!
I'm going to start pumping these out on the dillon and get more brasses to convert. conversion brasses will be for sale on my site soon.
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I've duplicated speer GD 124s using PD124s and SP. my bullets arent bonded, but they are lower SDs and ES than the Speer GDs I tested (in order to duplicate)
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Initial results look good. Brass came in, and resized and trimmed. Hand primed(I forgot how good nice new primer pockets are) and loaded ladder load (pairs of rounds in + .3 grns/ea) starting nice and low. Checking Brass each pair, I got just a very slight cratering, but no real flattening and no ejector marks. To my surprise the very last/highest load for the day was a duplicate (matching pair) at 2446. Going to load up some 5 round groups in this area and see how they run. May make a few extra sets of that 2446 load to throw at some of the steel targets.
I saw a bobcat on the way back from the range. first time I've ever seen one in the wild. I found some CFE 223, but holding off until I get a good load with this setup. Will most likely just run this std 105 Berger bullet...
More to come.
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Initial results look good. First round was a sighter.
2nd Group 6mmARC - ppVarmit Berber105s
First group no pictures I was getting setup with a good rest. After checking the brass I proceeded to the 2nd group pictured. Checked that brass and saw flat primers and moderate cratering (similar/typical to factory) and 1 pierced primer. Stopped there.
Have 250 Starlines on the way, but will be a couple weeks. I think I'm going to focus on this bullet/powder combo.I did notice that the two mags that I currently have are different mag length, so I'll have to load shorter to fit both mags. I seated them at 2.230" and just ran the mag that would fit them.
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Anyone running these post up. Just ordered 250 starline Brass, for conversion convert them.
The way I see it right now, we have everything but brass to make it happen. Hornady is great and all, but we know the brass aint the best. I think it will be a while before the good companies make runs on it, but that will not stop me in the meantime. I did see that Georgia Arms sometimes has once fired.Also looking for opinions on annealing before necking down. or other options on getting ahold of once fired/new 6ARC brass.
Thanks.
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Did a bit of load testing today with other pistols and ran the gun again.
got: Avg-1374 with 124s using same load as prev. Dot on clays at 50. 97B and 6ARC also ran great.
I noticed that the dot never really left the window, it just jumped to the top and then back down.
My next batch I am going to back it down a hair.
Love the CZs!
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Here is my "Open Pewers" Build under instruction of Prof. Atlas. Round limited, but whatevs. I even shot it with irons first time. I'm new to open and kinda new to CZs.
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yeah, I saw those the other day and dang they are nice. I have 97 and 6ARC boolits to buy though... I'll come up with something and post in another month or so, carry on grand masters until then!
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Its mounted, sighted in and ran it yesterday.
When I pulled it out my wife said "is all that laser stuff IDPA legal"? lol...
She helped me sight it in with clays on the 50yd berm.
The grip broke, I knew it would. I have replacement in development.
Now on to the holster, with this big honking 90 offset thing, Im thinknig racemaster or similar, but I'm also cheap so I have some options in mind. For Holster, has anyone just bought the racemaster holster inserts and milled/formed their own cradle/attachment?
Already left the battery on all night after some dry draws and it seemed dim in the sunlight now. Need to grab a couple of back up batts and make the on off part of load and chamber checking.
Smith removed the rear sight (which will be going on old 75B). He tapped the comp on top with a set screw and red locktite. He timed the barrel correclty and rockset it. He said the comp is already eroding and wont last. My reply was Donk Care, gonna run it till it breaks and then make another. He also makes his own comps with Ti, so he has those capabilities for the future.
Loads shot pretty good, brass seemed to show very slight cratering on primer, but still nothing worse than factory HD rounds I've commonly seen in factory guns.. I ran this batch of rounds on the 650 with the Dillon powder drop and an extra baffle. checking loads very often, they all came out within +/- .1 gn. so they all went in the bin - Previous batches were all hand weighed/confirmed off the press.
If I get a holster this weekend I may run uspsa, otherwise will be 3 gun with NEW 97B!, garand and 870. decisions decisions...
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So.. dropped off the gun at local shop to have it mounted to the SP-01.
Learned a couple of things:
With the horiz setup, it blocks the left side view of the sights, so that forces you to work from left to right. Also must remove rea sight to dis assemble the gun. so a slide racker is next.
He said lots of guys are running CO style dots (frame mounted) on open guns now. My reply was well, this is bought so I'm running it.
He also said hes getting out of open major because slides only last about 20-30k rounds. I doubt this one will see a fraction of that.
So, three holes drilled and tapped in the frame, he uses bigger screws, and then a couple holes drilled in the comp for set screws in the side.
In other news, I went by my other local enabler looking for a 97 and got talked into a SAR P8L. Ergos and finish are great! -
Ahh, that makes sense. Thanks for the explanation. I guess I'll just stick to my minor plinker loads...
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So is the sight block just to add weight and keep the muzzle down (in addition to longer radius)?
I just stumbled on this thread doing a search for Shadow threaded barrel. You guys need to stalk the professor. He is the dude about building open poos guns. Mine is in progress, 90 mount and Cmor dot on the way.
Its an SP-01 build full cajun, threaded (and throated) barrel and 11 port SJC comp. Load for 9maj on D650.Now I'm on the fence about nex build 97 same way or another 01 backup gun.
As far as capacity I can get 23 in with hennig baseplates, good enough for me til chezmate $$$ just falls into my pocket.
Alll.... thanks to atlas...
Ludes build is in this thread below as well..I think hes been working on long mags.
There IS a shadow 1st gen locally that I could snag and build. How are you going to put a comp on the S2? I asked about thrteaded barrel options to CGW just yesterday and got this:
The only place we are aware of that has threaded barrels for either model is Bar-Sto. The barrels are about $330 and some of them need quite a bit of fitting which will run $45-$90.Thanks,ThomasOn Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 3:57 PM Brandon Prater <cajungunworks@gmail.com> wrote:From: Brandon Prater Subject: Threaded barrel for Shadow 1 and/or 97 Message Body: hey, getting ready for my next build. What is the easiest/cheapest way tot get a threaded barrel on a Shadow first Gen? Do you guys have threaded barrels for the 97? Digg your stuff! keep filing! -- This e-mail was sent from a contact form on Cajun Gun Works.
Also note that the S2 ext mag catches and safeties fit the 01 - win!
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Having similar issue with mine. It held for a while but started to come out of time once again - Its been a *fun process of dykem and facing the comp to the shoulder of the threaded CZ barrel. My latest attempt lasted a local match. Using 272 with no set screw.
I'm newb to comps and open, just shoot local matches, no all day burn em down out of town matches.So... I'm back to taking it off, then reinstalling with a set screw or roll pin.
I'm leaning toward the roll pin, as that seems easier to manage in the field/on the bench. If I go Pin, should I try blue locktite too, or just leave it as is. Any other distince advantages/dis advantages of using a rollpin? seems like it is not used that often compared to set screw. why?
I was also thinking about sticking the gun in the freezer and then warming up the comp with a heat gun to break the 272. I don't know if it would really help any but well see.
Do ya'll swab/spray the ports to keep carbon from sticking? I've heard that's a thing.
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Very interesting. I've got a PCC and some czs to load for. Are you running it in competition? If so you may be limited to the certian weights of bullets if you load for major.
I would think that you can either try to load hotter with slower powder to work the comp - like a 9mm open gun,OR
Try a light PF load with 147s - but note that wont work the comp as much.
Normally I run my CZ 124 minor loads through the PCC, but I just worked up to open major with a comp so now I'm wondering what that would be like in the Ruger PCC.
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Hats off again to the folks here for help with this.
Have cheely mount in hand, but its not the horiz offset so gonna get that swapped.
What is the best dot size for c more in bama sun. I'm thinking 8MOA but newb so plz schl?
The gun seemed to run great besides one mag issue with the first round. First action match in a year so a bit rusty but it was pretty fun. Looking back at those popper shots its pretty good POI, probably a couple inches high, but I'll take it until the dot. -
On 9/5/2020 at 8:16 AM, BadShot said:
I just bought a finishing reamer from Brownells and did my CZ myself. One load works for all my 9mm guns.
sweet. I might go this route for future builds. I ended up farming 2 barrels out (both for 9MAJ)
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Finally made 9 MAJ!
First match this year (for me) is coming up this weekend. I figured I might as well jump in to open. So... Using SWMP I was able to make 5 shot avg. of 1343. I had a nice 45 min drive in the miata through the hills to shoot 3 groups of 5 rounds/power levels. The last made major, just as I had estimated based on prev data interpolation. Range was full, 3 separate groups of dads and young sons with all smiles. Ruger 22s rounded off the day and leftover clays on the berm.
No jams, brass ejects ~5ft, very faint breech face mark on primer, very slight cratering, slight swipe, slightly flattened. Still not as bad as normal Facotry Speer GDs, so I'm calling that GTG.
I have Cheely C more mount on the way. The C more will have to be next payday.
Looking for advice on:
- Do I need to have an actual C-more in hand to get good mounting options/positions?
- What kind of slide racker would you guys recommend, or do you bend/mill your own?
- would you advise racker on left or right with assumed ^^^ setup?
Thx to all for the guidance!
One additional note. Looking back I am glad I spent the time/$ on getting the chamber reamed. I suspect that, with the longer barrel and slower powder help make major a bit more safely. These are direct results of stalking this and the other CZ forum.
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More PF testing today. this gun is coming together nicely and I'm loving SWMP. I just did 5 shot groups for testing.
Comp is holding time! I went back and added some red 272 on the inside of the comp threads where they come through the 1st chamber of the comp. I sopped the extra up with a Q tip. Let dry for a day and a half.
I'm up to 8.80 gns @1283 and 159PF - NOTICABLE power increase from the previous load level, brass ejected ~3 ft, no jams, very faint square ejector mark, very slight cratering.
This gun is becoming a sweet shooter for sure!
Leaning toward another D/T for cheely & Cmore next. Will post up when I actually get to major.
Edit - Cheely mount on the way. It was $30 cheaper for Labor day sale so done...stay tuned. -
Ahh yes, proof in effect that its working? Would a mini comp that is just for show still function with lighter loaded minor PF rounds I saw one on another fugly gun and am now left wondering.
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Another test round today.
Minor PF rounds = jams (assuming more weight of barrel/comp)Using SWMP (new to me - heard good stuff)
5 groups of 5 bullets over the chrono - I start LOW
6.5 ~915
7.0 ~1020
7.4 ~1105
7.6 ~1140
7.8 ~1150
Loving this powder so far, next test batch will tell more. Comp stayed in time GTG!
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Bringin out my COVIDead ...thread... DONG!
The way I see it, open guns have comps as pretty much standard and that's the main reason why people don't run s2s (my best guess). Show me an S2 with a comp or a threaded barrel. I've only seen a pic of 2. 1 was fully custom and the other was some guy that took his checkmate barrel off and put it on an S2 - Which IMO is like a guy with a yaght on the river saying to the pleabs, hey dudes look at the ferrari engine I put in this jet ski....
And as just mentioned, the S2 barrels are hardened, so although reaming and threading could be done, lets see it BE done!
There is also round count, but I don't see that as a limiting factor unless your really into M or GM.
Moving on to load development and making walnut grips. Will post results.
Finally Pics! also threw in my daily 75B (first CZ ever) - love shoulder carry!
I'm working on new grips/magwell.
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thats awesome!
How did you time it and secure it?
I just tested my 3rd attempt at fitting a comp on the 01 - Almost successful! I have the square glocky 11 port SJC comp. To time it correctly I hacked the face off and faced it down to time correctly and then used high temp locktite. It held time during the minor PF test rounds but started timing on the hotter rounds.
I'll get pics up soon, I'm considering either a set screw or a through pin to keep it from rotating.
6ARC brass converted from 6.5 Grendle.
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Ohh Dang more bullets to buy..