I have a friend that shoots one and competes all over the country. It is not a bad shotgun. If you beat on it hard small parts break. However with the Or3gun spacer, and recoil system, and an SBE Precision competition piston his has been running like a beast. He ran 2000 shells last time with no cleaning and zero malfunctions. It is possible to get these to run really well. The base gun isn't quite ready for prime time, but with a little work it really runs well.