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Correct, and we have guys that placed in the top 10 at nationals shooting glocks, reinforcing what you are saying. When it comes to gun / gear selection (including ammo), is to have stuff that works. After that, caliber / mag capacity / gear that is competitive for your division. Beyond that....it comes down to competency and training. Now if you are going to spend lot's of time in the sport, it's well worth getting something you enjoy shooting which may or may not be an expensive 2011. There is also something to be said for a less complex platform that is easier to maintain. Shooters choice! If you can't afford a $5k 2011, get a sub $1000 gun and put the rest into practice ammo, training, and classes.

Anyone had any time with the flux defense mp17 system yet? If you sbr'd it you could run a p320 in CO, production, limited, AND pcc!! Since getting a legion, converted my x5 into a coolfire system. Took the weight out of the grip, i get a fair amount of recoil during simulated fire.

https://gunstreamer.com/ is looking like it might be a sustainable option. You can find gunsmithing videos there

Echoing others. Shooting is an expensive sport, reloading will offer you the chance to shoot more for the same cost, give you exact control over your load, and ability to make your own ammo rather than being reliant on whats on the shelves (online or not). I recommend it just from the aspect of freedom it buys you. It is easy to do the cost benefit analysis based on current ammo prices. Keep in mind ammo is cheaper today than it was a few years ago, i suspect itll become more expensive in due time. So whatever the payback time is today, itll likely be sooner when ammo prices increase.

Interesting data, only 3 GMs shot a GM percentage in Open and only 2 GMs shot a GM percentage in pcc.

At a larger match your percentage is relative to 1 person. At nationals it is relative to the best guy in the division. The classifier system is relative to the average of the top 10 hit factors (unless you have match classifier scores) I.e. your classifier average is likely a measure of a different skillset against a different pool of people than nationals. Many people arent going to shoot their classifier average at a large match. Keep in mind classifiers are a very different skill than field courses. You could be a legit 100% GM in the stand and shoot classifier world, and an 80% at field courses in a larger match. Keep working on the rest of your match skills.

Take whatever you have now and shoot uspsa for 3 to 6 months, then start making gear and division decisions. There is a huge difference between dot vs iron sight rigs, low cap vs high cap, etc... figure that all out after you shoot what you have and maybe shoot some friends guns to find what you like. Also, keep in mind the gear /gun wont make you a better shooter. So long as you have gear that works and is reliable, the difference in say a $1500 limited gun and a $7000 limited gun in the same shooters hands wont make much of a difference in match placement. Effective practice and training will make the difference.

I have done the comparison. The legion trigger is ~75% as good as the x5 with gg trigger. Albeit, my x5 gg trigger has thousands of rounds through it, my legion only has a couple hundred i suspect after some break in the legion trigger will reduce in pull a little bit. Honestly, when it comes to running both triggers in a match, the difference wont matter for match placenent.

Ahh interesting, i like the side charging option. Although it wont buy you any performance

They have had the side charger for some time

Im sure the payback on the steam unit is much longer. Im not in this for the most cost effective solution

Which model does he have? I break the gun down, soak it in mineral spirits for a hour, scrub off anything that didnt dissolve, once dry, i oil and reassemble. Regardless, my method or the ultrasonic method, i always seem to need some amount of scrubbing. If the dry vapor method eliminates a scrubbing step, im intrigued.

Thanks for all the input. Ill take a look at the grams follower. Took a look at my x5 vs my legion, indeed there is a difference in the ramp per stician.

Having an issue with the legion. Using Sig's 21rnd mags with taran tactical base plates to get 23 rounds total. If I do a reload while I've got a round in the pipe to a 23rnd mag, it seems the bullets / tension in the mag spring puts to much pressure on the slide and the slide doesn't have enough force to cycle the gun and I get stove pipes. I'm using the exact same mags fully loaded that run flawlessly in my X5 (non legion). Anyone else run into this? Am I relegated to 22 rounds in my 23 round mags?

Haha, I'm sure someone here will proudly let us know that not only is it meant for carry, but they use it on their carry gun, and you are a fool to think otherwise.

The guys that are competitive in CO are shooting a configuration few would ever realistically carry

This is ridiculous....is the romeo 3 max mounting pattern brand new or consistent with anything that already exists?

For some reason i thought the R3Max mounted directly to the legion, and would need a plate to mount to a standard X5

The brass daddy by sgcbrass will separate pins from your brass then dry your brass in about 20 to 30min.

Would you say the bezel on the Max is less obtrusive compared to the SRO?

I believe he is refereing to someone else that shot the match, not himself.

With the competitors app you can open the results and see if there were penalties added. Ill get an example together. Its happened to me a couple times. After the first occurance i had to go through the math to keep myself from going mad.

It comes down to stage points and stage wins. In your own division there are one set of stage winners and one set of competitors taking stage points from one another. In the overall results with a different pool of competitors, different people have overall stage wins and different people take stage points from one another. Thats how you can beat someone in your division and lose to them in the overall score. This is a broad view for an explanation, anything further we need to dive into math which im happy to do if you want.

I have personally done this on accident, tumble overnight. Chronod the rounds, checked for poi shift and group size. It was indistinguishable from the rounds that were not tumbled overnight.

Plated are great. Dont get the leading you get with coated. I view plated as a huge step up from coated for minimal cost. CMJs are great at a much higher price point. Plated are also less finicky to load compared to coated.