J_Allen
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I have used both. The Speed Beez may be imperceptibly better for stand and shoot since all the moons are teed up at the top of the magnets. But in reality the North Mountain is just as good. As soon as you add movement, the North Mountain blows it out of the water. I had moonclips falling off the Speed Beez magnets with hard running. No problem at all with the North Mountain posts.
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7 minutes ago, IVC said:
Well, I shot a 100% classifier 18-06 "For That Day" during my regular match on 12/28 and it's sitting there in the system with the "P" flag until the classification program runs this Tuesday, at which point I should be a Master. Quite happy about that...
Congrats!
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10 hours ago, GMP said:
P09 poor mans open gun.
What is the frame optic mount you are using?
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This post really got me thinking about this possibly happening in my last classifier - Diamond Cutter (09-02). More details here:
Did I get a good classification because I used a 8 shot gun in a historical classifier, or have the HHF been updated? This is becoming a very interesting topic, in thinking about when a major paradigm shift happens in a division and how the classifications respond.
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On 4/30/2013 at 5:27 AM, alecmc said:
Shooting this with a revolver sucked, I got all my hits either a or c around low 7 seconds and classifier calc estimated a low C, thought it would of been a lil higher.
Last classifier this summer.
Revolver:
Time - 6.19 sec
Points - 32 (80% - 4 As & 4 Cs)
HF - 5.17
59.19%
Alecmc, I know I’m quoting you in an almost 7 year post, but was curious about the switch between 6 shot and 8 shot guns (especially given a contemporary post in the Revolver forum right now regarding the same issue). When you ran this I’m guessing you did it as 6 shot major with a reload, correct? Would the HHF have been updated with the transition to 8 shot guns in the interim?
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Well, I didn’t reach C class in Revo this year, but did get close - am currently 39.5% overall, with the next classifier to drop being a 24.4%. So barring a disasterous run (anything below a 28%) I should make it. My last classifier (09-02) was a 59.2% run with the 627 (no reloads were required). I have been dry firing the semi-autos this fall, and was averaging 4x/week for about 3 months leading up to Thanksgiving, but the holiday season has really taken a beating to my free time. I am hopeful to get back into it for 2020, and have been kicking around the idea of making my New Years resolution to be putting in some serious Revo time. Only time will tell, but there is an A class Revo guy at the club I’m looking at going to be shooting matches at next year, so that is motivation to have someone better than me to follow.
Jason
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I personally wouldn’t worry about feeling like you cheated the system or anything. Although a 100% run can pull up your classification percentage, if that one score is what is bumping you to M, then you were close anyway. It sounds like you shot the classifier like any other stage, so you approached it the right way, rather than trying to hero or zero the stage. So in my mind enjoy the bump and congrats!
I am in the opposite boat - I started USPSA in Revolver after the transition to the 8 shot minor guns... with a S&W 625. Standing reloads on 8 shot arrays will really hurt your classification scores. So while I am a solid C class shooter (in other words totally pedestrian), I am still stuck in D class Revo because I haven’t run enough classifiers since switching to my S&W 627 (most of last year I shot Limited instead). I would have done it last fall at the last club match I shot, but we ended up doing the Go Fast, Don’t Suck postal match instead, so no classifier.
Jason
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Ha! Just giving you a hard time. It’s really tough when anyone can chime in on a thread, and it’s difficult to know who to listen to if there are differing opinions. After all, I do it time to time!
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On 3/23/2019 at 5:58 PM, Bwillis said:
Also to the above poster about not listening to anyone but Memphis and homie you forgot to mention Rowdy.
I know this is an old thread, but I find it kind of funny that there is quite possibly another person in the thread worth listening to...
Hint: he might have the entire forum named after him
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On 10/23/2019 at 6:18 PM, Malarky112 said:
Haha! I laughed out loud at this, and can't agree more. Looked thru the website and couldn't find any I would consider wearing. It is cool to know they'll make lenses for current oakleys.
Agree with the observation, but when was the last time you found a date at the range? Yeah, thought so!
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Mont1120,
I’m surprised you were shooting low with the Glock - usually you shoot high after transitioning from the 1911 grip angle. Do you think you were pushing the gun down anticipating recoil with the lighter frame?
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10 hours ago, Bifurcate said:
Makes sense to me I think.
Maybe it can can be summarized that you get one “process” a week, and that your process works oldest to newest as you would expect but you won’t “skip” initial classification rules even though you have more than the 6 required.
Exactly. However, I did the math a little wrong in the above example. I had reversed the August and June scores, so after the initial classification of 75%, then the the next two scores of 50 and 50 are used (40 and 25 are lowest 2 of recent 8 scores, and June’s 75 is not used), so then 66.67% but still A class. Then only scores above 70% are used. I don’t think you get the “B” flags until you have 6 scores counted. So if you only did a special classifier, the top 4 would give you initial percent and classification, the next week it would run all 6 and give you a new lower percentage, since the 2 lowest scores would be factored in, but your overall class would stay the same. Then you would start using “B” flags for new scores that were uploaded.
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This exact scenario happened to me this year in limited. Still unclassified after first 3 classifiers, then add in 6 more for special classifier match. Those last 6 were sorted with highest being most recent. Initial classification was the 4 highest from special classifier. In this example: 90, 80, 70, and 60 = 75% (A class). Then the next week it recalculates top 6 of 8 (add in 75 and 50) for initial classification % of 70.83%, but still A class. The 40 and 50 are the lowest 2 of 8, so not counted, and the June score of 25 is never used. From that point forward scores below 70% are flagged for below A class, and you go up from there.
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20 hours ago, b1indfire said:
I'm just saying this since some of the "snap caps" I saw for sale are either inert rounds or look like live rounds. (I personally have the orange ones which were more expensive, but I would never be able to mistake them for live rounds) But I agree wholeheartedy, the only time you should be inserting live rounds into your gun should be at a designated shooting area or for carry.
Thanks for following up, and your reply was what I kind of figured. But you never know who might be reading these posts or what their experience level might be, so I just wanted to be crystal clear.
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On 8/21/2019 at 8:20 PM, b1indfire said:
One side note: Although the lock does look ugly, it is super useful if you want to make doubly sure that you don't have a negligent discharge while doing reload practice.
I may be taking this out of context since it wasn’t the point of your post, but thought it would be worth mentioning.... but PLEASE do not use live rounds if you are doing any sort of gun manipulation during practice. Other options include snap caps or making some dummy rounds if you are a reloader. Without any other information, I am not trying to imply you are unsafe, but I do know that anyone can make a mistake, as we are all human. Taking live ammo out of the equation is just something that I would STRONGLY encourage.
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41 minutes ago, gr7070 said:
I do mean 38 spl./357 magnum revolvers and 9x19 autos. I would not be shooting short colt.
I use 38 spl Federal American Eagle ammo in my revolvers currently and whatever cheap 9mm I buy.
While I appreciate the suggestion I will not be reloading. I don't have the interest and I don't shoot enough to justify the cost.
Then 929 gets the nod. Save your brass though, because you never know.
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When you say you own both calibers already, do you mean 357 mag revolver and 9mm semi-auto? If you don’t reload, then I feel like you would have to go with a S&W 929, since you are not going to find 38 short colt on the shelves. But even then, do the 929’s run factory 9mm out of the box? Don’t have any experience with that myself. My advice would be to take a serious look at getting into reloading first.
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Just go to the classifieds and look for the G22L that DK Customs has for sale. Great set-up that I believe would satisfy your requirements.
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1 hour ago, motosapiens said:
You are doing it wrong. the idea is not to have 1 gun that will do multiple things. Maybe your wife likes that idea, but grown men with jobs think it's dumb. the idea is to use any excuse you can think of to buy another new gun, or two.
Secondly, just don't go minor. It's not rocket surgery. I only know 1 person who has ever gone minor at a match, and we had told him many times he was cutting it too close.
LOL! Yeah, I can always learn a thing or two from this forum.
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11 hours ago, BritinUSA said:
The original post was shooting a .40 as Major with 8 rounds, failing the chrono and asking if he could load his magazines to 10 rounds for the rest of the match.
No mention of a gun swap in the original post.
For the original question it appears legal to me, he would be shooting minor so he can load 10 rounds.
OP here. I have been following this thread and have found some of the points brought up to be very interesting, so thank you for all the responses. Just to clarify, this never happened to me. The reason I was wondering is that I don’t currently own a single stack gun (sacrilege, I know!), and I was wondering what caliber I would choose to get one in: 9mm, 40 s&w, or 45 acp. So the idea of picking 40 s&w seemed to be the most flexible, as that you could declare both minor or major power factor for a match (both from the PF standpoint, and also from magazine capacity).
So then it was just a theoretical question, thinking about a scenario where you could actually switch mid match. I was figuring that if one missed PF at chrono, that they wouldn’t have missed it by much (let’s say 164 PF), and then let’s say half of their stages were run with 8 in their mags. Therefore, switching to 10 for the remaining half of stages didn’t seem like a big deal to me, since they would be at a significant disadvantage compared to all other SS shooters for that specific match (assuming everyone else made their declared PF). I was not thinking about someone trying to game the system, or the advantage one would have if they hit the chrono earlier in the match before someone else. Mostly was thinking about the ability to somewhat salvage the match as much as possible. I will be really interested in the final ruling on this question.
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Yes, I just think it’s interesting in that it is the only case I can think of, where you can make a compensatory move after failing chrono to mitigate the change to minor.
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Just a theoretical question that I was thinking about the other day. Let’s say you are running a 40 s&w single stack rig, and register for major PF. At chrono you don’t make it and thus are scored minor for the match. Does this mean that all the subsequent stages you shoot after the chrono can now have the mags topped off at ten rounds rather than the eight you were loading before the chrono? I don’t see why not, as you won’t be getting an advantage in the match (assuming your ammo is way over minor PF, and all prior stages you were in essence running minor PF with eight round mags). Just curious.
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Thanks for the technical insight. I think I’ll stick with the .358 sized bullets. If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.
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After a month of cancelled matches due to inclement weather and holiday, I finally had a chance to break out the revolver for a club match this year. Overall it went pretty well, although I did end up zeroing the classifier. Put two into hard cover and another into a no-shoot. They weren’t that far off the mark, but I probably got a little too jumpy and didn’t wait for a clean sight picture. The longer courses went a lot better, one of which I really felt I did a solid job on (beat 50% of the field). I was probably at my best, so I cannot extrapolate it out to my overall level right now, but it does show me what I am capable of and if I work hard to consistently perform at that level I would be super pleased. I only have one more match before our Sectionals, so there is no way I can move up to C class by then, but I really think I can do it if I hit decent back-to-back Classifiers. Don’t even have to burn them down, just avoid penalties. So that’s my goal by the end of the summer.
S&W 929 Hogue Big Butt Grips
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Another vote for BB without finger grooves. Personal preference, but for me rubber gets the edge over wood.