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J_Allen

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  1. Memory stages just require more walk through before the match starts. Burn in the required positions and you should be set. So they just penalize the shooters that don’t show up as early - not exactly a practical skill. Now before anyone thinks I’m just complaining (because that is essentially what my last two posts have been), if done correctly I have no problem with either physical stages or memory stages - just seems like it is easier to fall into gimmicky territory when trying to implement those two categories.
  2. I think the example of options - running vs taking the longer shot - is not reality. Take bay 1 of Area 3, it’s like 75 yards long and they used to set up the stage to allow just that option. But NOBODY chose to run, the default was pretty much just take the longer shots. Didn’t matter if it was irons or dot divisions either. So you either force everyone to run long between required positions or you don’t. In a sport where tenths (I won’t say hundreths!) of seconds can make a difference in scoring, a forced run of many seconds doesn’t seem to be warranted. Just my opinion.
  3. I thought Leupold was lifetime guarantee. One of the reasons I have them.
  4. https://shootingsportsinnovations.com/1911-bite-grips/
  5. Yes, I have experienced the same phenomenon. I don’t have a 1911, but if I got one would try out the “bite” grips from SSI. Disclaimer: I have not used these, but they look like they might open up the hand a little more in the front to disperse pressure (despite having a similar shape in the back).
  6. I do load a lot longer than that (38 sc), and it makes 172 PF. Dial back the powder and plug the holes seems like a win-win on the noise front.
  7. Yep, already double plug with good ear pro. Using 9.8 grains of 3n38 under 124 gr JHP. Has three popple holes. It’s still crazy loud. Didn’t know I could plug the popples - will definitely look into that.
  8. Just a question I have been thinking about recently. Open is my favorite division so far, but also the only dot division I have participated in. I have an Atlas Chaos V1 in 38 super comp, which is super fun to shoot, but the noise is off the charts. Just too much for me and I don’t want to have permanent hearing damage. Curious what others would do in this situation - rebarrel open gun in 9mm major WITHOUT popple holes, or sell and use that money to switch to either CO or LO.
  9. I just wanted to thank the mods for bringing this thread back. Not everyone has social media, and this site does have value in civil discussion of current events.
  10. I think it’s a great idea to get actual data on the timer. Thanks!
  11. I’m starting to understand a little better, and probably didn’t explain myself perfectly before. I do aim at the A zone, but my personal acceptable sight picture sometimes has the dot making a linear streak, and not a single dot in the center of the target. If I wanted to raise my A:C ratio from 3:1 to 4:1 or higher I certainly could, but the time cost to make the dot settle would hurt me more than it would be worth.
  12. So if my math is correct, assuming no D’s, Mikes, or penalties, the following ratios of A:C should get you the following percentage of points: Major: 7:1 - 97.5% 6:1 - 97.1% 5:1 - 96.7% 4:1 - 96% 3:1 - 95% 2:1 - 93.3% 1:1 - 90% Minor: 7:1 - 95% 6:1 - 94.3% 5:1 - 93.3% 4:1 - 92% 3:1 - 90% 2:1 - 86.7% 1:1 - 80% If the above analysis is correct, then let’s assume a competition is shooting Revolver minor (which is mostly everybody in Revolver). The person shooting at a 3:1 ratio would have to be over 2% faster overall to beat someone shooting at a 4:1 ratio. That difference decreases at the top, where in a hypothetical National Championship level competition shooting between 6:1 and 7:1 of the points, the winner is being decided be a 0.7% speed difference. This makes sense to me as smaller amounts of time make bigger differences at the top level (as it becomes much more difficult to trim time anywhere). Also, the lower your A:C ratio, the more likely that D’s, Mikes, and penalties will come into the equation as well, which now pushes down your point denominator even more, exacerbating the differences between competitors.
  13. Again, as an example, my A/C ratio at Open Nationals was about 3:1, and Practiscore Competitor app shows me at 92% of points for the match. This is major scoring of course. So with minor scoring, in order to get 92% of points I would need a ratio closer to 4:1. I’m thinking now that my difficulty in comprehending what I need to do is less the Revolver transition, and more the major to minor scoring transition.
  14. How do you define what an acceptable sight picture might be (in terms of points at the end of a match)? For example, for me in open, an acceptable sight picture would be the A/C zones, shoot as fast as I can in that area, and then move on. This is probably not the way, since I should have been picking out specific points on the targets, but I’m thinking that’s what I probably did. I only cared about D’s or Mikes, and if I got none, my ratio of A to C didn’t bother me at all because I went as fast as I could on the stage. But now in Revo, the equation changes. Now is an acceptable sight picture the A zone only, and I want no more that a 4:1 ratio (for example) at the end of the match? I realize D’s and Mikes are now extraordinarily bad, and not something I can outrun. But I don’t want to slow down too much. The optic to iron sight transition is slow enough, but add in long double action trigger pulls, and now changing definitions of acceptable sight picture, and it feels like it becomes a much more static game. This is all based on my skill level of course, I’m not trying to project that everyone does this.
  15. Wow, some great math here. Loved shred’s 10 HF estimate as well.
  16. Thanks everyone - HF was about 3, so those 5 seconds equaled 15 points. The two C’s cost me 4 points, and the two D’s cost me 8 points. So for 12 points, the time did make the difference. I guess the hard part is knowing what the HF will be BEFORE shooting the stage. In this match, they were all 2-3 HF field courses, which probably isn’t a bad estimate in general for a longer local stage around here. Classifier type stand and deliver stages may boost that up, but obviously no where near where the optic divisions are. So not only would you have to know your own ability, but also that of your competition to know how hard to push it. And then factor in how the match is going for each competitor, both on the individual stage (if they shoot before you), and also overall match points to see what lead you need to make up or defend. Seems pretty complicated. I kind of enjoyed open strategy - just going as fast as able, and when the stage was over only caring about D’s and M’s. Now that I have to care about C’s, this is going to change the equation quite a bit. After breaking down Practiscore, I lost 12% point, gained 13% on time, and really lost with all my sloppy Mikes. Makes sense.
  17. What percentage of points do you shoot for in a match? 90%, 95%, etc? Some background - I decided to stick with Revo this year, and opened the year with a bigger local match. Had a lot of fun, but ultimately got destroyed. The other Revo shooter was a great guy, but I need to up my game to give him a bit of competition. I’ve shot some Revo in the past, but the last two years have been in open. I’m a high C class there (58%), so knocking on the door of B class. I am quite happy with where I’m at for my level of participation. Mostly trying to get a little more insight into how to approach the division. For example, one of the only 2 stages I ended up on top, I shot the 26 round stage 5 seconds faster but dropped 2 more C’s and 2 more D’s. I tried to outrun the points, but it seems like the HFs are so low that it’s practically impossible. So basically adjusting to the speed of the game is just so different from open that I’m looking for some kind of analysis to help me out. Now I know I have to work on my accuracy. No doubt about that. Doesn’t help that I haven’t shot iron sights for a while. But I was able to keep both eyes open, which was a win since I couldn’t do that previously. So what is the collective experience in terms of points? 100% seems like it would be unreasonably slow. I’ve heard minor divisions (like production) strive for about a 3:1 ratio of A:C, so about 90% points. But do the slower Revo times skew that even further up into the 95% range? Thanks for any advice shared.
  18. I like major and minor scoring in USPSA, but you could keep them without necessarily tying it to power factor. For example, if you tied scoring differences to divisions, then Open could all be scored major (regardless of PF), and CO could all be scored minor. The risk/reward equation would be slightly different between them. You could also tie scoring differences to capacity - could have a universal low cap irons division with 8 shot major and 10 shot minor. You could literally include every type of gun in this division: single stack, revolver, glock, etc. If you declare major then you get 8 shots, and if you declare minor you get 10. Doesn’t matter caliber, only capacity. Just trying to make the point that major/minor scoring and PF are distinct ideas, currently married to one another, but wouldn’t have to be.
  19. Just curious because I think I may have missed this - what division is making 625s relevant again? Is this in ICORE? Thanks, Jason
  20. Just thinking about this a bit more, I would run an optic revolver if they allowed it in Production (under the current capacity rules). An optic-sighted 8 shot revolver would probably still get beat by an iron-sighted 10 shot semi-auto, but at least it’s closer than it would be in L10. The main difference here is that not only are both on the same PF level, but only the Revo would have the advantage of the optical sight (which would make more of a difference in minor PF scoring).
  21. Revo optics wouldn’t be any more competitive in L10 than it would in Open. Sure the capacity difference is there, but with the semi-auto reload speed and major power factor, there would be no chance. The only way Revo optics would work would be heads up (aka OSR in Steel Challenge), and I am not advocating that at this time. The addition of optics in L10 is just throwing a bone to see if folks want optics on their major PF Limited guns, since the new Limited Optics division might effectively kill Limited irons. I personally would have just allowed SAO into CO, but I’m not a CO shooter so what do I know, The shift in the new rule proposals really seems to be leaving Revo (and Single Stack) in the dust. If Production is allowed to increase capacity, then they might survive (as a surrogate Lim minor division), but Revo is effectively dead (with the noteable exception of the people on this forum). Please note that I am also not advocating scrapping the division, just that I don’t know how one would increase participation numbers. Thinking about the future of Revo does make me a little sad. It is my favorite division. Every year I think this is the year, but it never plays out. I don’t think allowing optics in L10 would change that, since open allows that currently and I don’t see anyone taking advantage (but I’m sure one or two people probably have at some point just for the novelty).
  22. Ok, I’ll actually try to make a productive post, rather than my previous snarky one. You won’t go wrong with the approach of going with a used gun first and getting accustomed to the 2011 platform. Then you can keep that gun as your back-up and buy a newer one later, and be better educated about what you might do different in the second gun. That said, I have known a couple people (myself included) that have gone cheaper to begin with, and then spent more money later upgrading. This is compared to friends that have spent more up front, and ended up with a smaller, but ultimately more refined collection that I envy. So either way I think you’ll be fine. But if you really want the Limcat, I don’t think you’ll regret it.
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