Joe4d

man little changes and experiences give people completely different perceptions of componenets. I started out in IDPA, and hard cast waz/ grease lube days.. I loaded tight group then WST.. everyone on here acted like 320 was the beeze knees... Never tried it, as it was double the cost.. Only people using 231 was the old timers in 45's again with these wax lubed hard cast.. they were dirty and smoked like freight trains,, probably loaded to pretty low pressure. Just find it funny that you see 320 as dirty and 231 as clean.. guess its all in the application and 2 powders can behave differently in different uses. Before covid I ran into some bulk deals on AA2 and probably have more than I will ever use.. I imagine if I had run into the same deals on 231 or 244 Id probably be just as happy with it.

Powder is sold and loaded by weight not volume so its density wont make a difference in price per round.. Burn rate will determine grs per round,, so again nothing to do with density. In general a fuller case burns more consistent.. Thats the theory anyways.. But loading with powders like tight group makes me wonder if thats true. People seem to do ok with it in 45 acp.. and that theory says it should be horrible.

its a reformulated 231.. basically they found a cheaper way to make it.. This powder came out or got known about the same time Sport pistol, and Cleanshot (a reflagged Accurate #2) came about. Its low volume to charge weight made me think it would have consistency issues. Although tightgroup is pretty low volume and works fine. Clean shot and Sport Pistol became available... I am only just now seeing 244,, People already decided on what they wanted to use and were happy with it. Another crowd just stuck with VV 310 and 320... Used to be VV was expensive.. There price stayed about the same and Hodgdons jumped up in price.. Basically actual availability of 244 missed the boat.. Although Sport pistol now seems to be getting rare. 244 is also a bit slower than some of the more popular 9 minor/ 40 major loads and probably has just a bit more bark than say A2.. 244 is probably a really good all around powder for people that load a little bit of every thing and arnt all that concerned with top velocity or absolute minimum recoil.

seems like that would require a move like drawing cross draw,, Hard turn to right,, draw,, then shift back around to where ever the target is.. I only ever did mounted shooting with western gear so 180 wasnt an issue..

trying to follow this,, can you describe using clock with 12 being straight down range and belly button of body ?

the Hi Tek coated ? I have used missouri, Bayou , Penn, SNS, half a dozen of 1 six of the other, have not noticed any difference in them.

For everyones info,, Highgun is re labeled tightgroup, for whatever reason. Hodgdon wanted a new powder .

what kind of coating ? I have a bunch of tightgroup still I quit using back in my moly coated days.. Might try it again Yeh alot of people used it in 9 minor and 40 major as it was cheap, seemed to be always available, and it worked well.. As mentioned only issue was smoke with the pre hitek style coatings, or wax lubed. Jacketed and copper bullets were more common then before prices got stupid.. I was gathering all my 40 ammo and came across a couple boxes of tighgroup under 180 gr HAP's 40 major match loads.. I used to shoot HAP's at matches and Precesion Moly coated and local hard cast wax in proactice.

anything but tight group,, But really Hiteck coating is alot less smokey than the old black moly coating or the uncoated lubed stuff. So really Tight group may be fine. Usual suspects for 9mm minor, 320, Accurate number 2, CLeanshot, American Select, I mean really you can go to a burn rate chart and look between E3 and Unique and pick one. Clean shot which is the old Accurate #2 seems to be a winner on price and availability.. Id probably stock up on that and call it good.

dont see a quotable rule,, and SC doesnt have a catch all phase for unsafe gun handling.. While I imagine it would go over like a ton of bricks, I dont see what specific rule would apply. WHich brings us to.... If the general philosophy we expect RO's to follow is. "DOnt be a dick" We sorta gotta expect the shooters to "DOnt be a dumbass"

scroll down said forum,, the information is posted many times,, but as you are set on powder and bullet you just need a manual

look in the reloading section.. Look at a burn rate chart, pretty much anything from E-3 to unique will make decent 9mm minor ammo. SHooters worlds powders havent taken off in price yet, I stocked up on Accurate 2 / and clean shot.. which is as good as any and better than most.

that was my thoughts as well. COps dont even do anything about actual crimes when you call. Somehow I dont see this being recorded anywhere, past whoever answers the phone saying ,,"thanks"

not watching the video,, but I agree with the politicians.. Not because its a foriegn firm,,, but because its a firm already in the business. We used to have anti monopoly laws and enforcement in this country. Too much consolidation is a bad thing for consumers. Look at the price of powder now that Hodgdon owns almost everything.. Same with primers,, almost all under one roof

you must not own rim fires.. its not the breaking of the pin, but dry firing will very much peen the side of the chamber and it doesnt take much.. I agree with the bag thing,, when carbines were allowed they shoulda just made a few edits and made trigger guard covering case, the same as a trigger guard covering holster..

cheap experiemt, pick up the UMC green box remington 147's They are easy to come by and one of the cheaper 9mm ammo out there. Shoot em against your 124's.. they are loaded to about same power factor,, probably 135 ish

ah,,, yeh I started strong hand reloading,, but noticed all the cool kids did weak hand,, took me a bit to unlearn strong (right for me) then get smoother with weak hand.. Once I got the knack for it, it does seem to have less steps and will be a bit faster.. Probably would be really good at it if I had actually practiced since oct..

well back when we all shot cast bullets, folks would go with conventional rifled Glock barrels.. But in the OPs case,, DId you get a base line of how the gun shot stock ? In a modern auto loader design consistency in the relationship between the barrel and the sights have the biggest affect... You changed the slide and the barrel,, Probably ended up with stacked tolerances.. Barrel to frame, slide to barrel,

I dunno, so then you are runnign with the cylinder flopping everywhere ? I dont see me ever doing much of a runnign reload with a revolver. Not as much movement in ICORE,

check Lee's websight they have powder scoops and bushing type powder measures that dispence in Cubic Cnetimeters. Their websight has a chart that will tell you how many grs per CC.. Will let you compare the relative size of powders per gr of weight to each other. Lets see of the powders I hear people using for 9 major HS6 and Win auto comp and 3n 38 will tak eup less room for same weight.. Probably why they became popular when th eworld moved from 38 super to 9mm See if this chart works.. Bigger number means less room per grain.. https://leeprecision.com/files/instruct/VMD.pdf

I would think it too fast for 9 major.. Looking around it seems like it was its own thing, I woulda guessed it was a Lovex powder that could be had under a shooters world brand now... But now that Hodgdon owns everything, you will probably see alot of consolidation and some powders get dropped, and as we are seeing prices get jacked,, Buy out the competition, shut them down, raise prices. HS6 is a pretty fine grained powder and seems to be readily available and common for 9 major loads.

Need to make up some dummy rounds and moon clips,, I am fairly new to Icore and speed reloading revolvers. I am an accurate fast shooter. I am a slow mover, always have been. Was pointed out to me, I should be doing more moving during reloads.. Alot more fine motor skills going on with a revolver, I tend to load then move.. Motosapiens brought up a good point though... Put it on a shot timer,, try it a couple different ways. WOuld be an easy drill to set up at my home range.. I did force myself to swithc to a weak hand reload,, while initially slower I think it has protentional to be faster in long run. Far as auto loaders ? I was at Black water watching Todd Jarret shoot the breeze,, and he could be standng there talking to you making jokes not even looking at his gun and nailing reloads faster than his dropped mag hit the ground.

sounds more like a high primer issue.. Excessive cylinder gap/ play would be more likely to cause light strikes I would think

I thought about magna porting my flat side 627 4" but not sure if it can be done on a flat side,, or if Id really gain anything. With the whole revolver thing having to revolve between shots, the generally heavy guns, and 120 pf , I cant much benifit that helps on the score board

at 130 pf you are kinda at a point of diminishing returns.. Probably simply better off just using a fast powder and a 124 -147 gr bullet.. That and hold on to the gun..