StanJ

I would like to upgrade the sights on my PCR. Could those of you that have replacement sights post some photos and if possible the sight heights and front post width and rear notch width and depth, and where you bought your sights. Thanks

Looking at the rosters for my local USPSA matches, lim is definitely in decline as compared to before LO was announced. I’m also seeing most of the lim shooters are minor and D or U class, indicating newer competitors with 9mms not wanting to load 10. Production and SS are all but nonexistent. That’s kind of a shame. I had a ton of fun in the iron sight divisions. Plenty of competition. If it continues on this trajectory it’ll be the United States Optical Shooting Association.

Perhaps those opposed to allowing major pf in LO have nothing to worry about. If all steel 9mm minor guns are killing dots, do they even have a chance of survival bolted to the lightened slide of a major pf gun running a 10lb recoil spring?

Sure. I suspect we’ll see that even more with with Eric Grauffel and Maria Gushchina on team CZ.

I guess for sake of argument, let’s not forget that Alex Gutt did win Production Nationals with a Limited Pro a few years back. Which is more than can be said for the Shadow 2.

Hopefully USPSA doesn’t put the last nail in the coffin for production division by adding another high cap 9mm minor division. I have a limited pro already and am considering a stock 2 just because I want one. Those two guns are so kicka**. It’s a shame that production is dwindling and by the time you buy one of these tanfos, pay for milling, an optic and magazine parts you’re $2000. Same story, $2000 if you could somehow find one of the unobtainable Stock OR pistols and put a decent optic on it and mag parts. It sucks being one of the only production shooters at a local match.

Is the stock 2 bull barrel more accurate than the standard heavy barrel on the lim pro?

They’re about 1oz different in weight. How different are they really? Is the stock 2 worth the extra $280?

The stock 2 is by far the more popular of these two guns. But I would like to hear from those of you who have experience with both. How different are they really? Is the premium price on the stock 2 justified?

I think it was built by Ichiro Nagata.

here it is

It’s similar to this one but even more bizarre and heavily modified. The picture I saw was from last year I think.

I saw a picture last year, I think from the Steel Challenge, of what looked like a really heavily modified S&W revolver. It had a real Buck Rogers look to it and I believe it was done by Ichiro Nagata. But I can’t for the life of me find that picture anywhere on the internet. Has anybody seen this photo floating around?

I tried this in a couple of guns after reading this thread. In a tso the tanfoglio sear spring added a tiny bit to the pull weight but did give the trigger pull a more definitive wall and a slightly more crisp break. An overall improvement for my trigger preferences. Second gun, 75B with a cz comp hammer and 13 lb recoil spring, this combination is already significantly better than the factory parts that come in this gun but the sa doesn’t have a very defined wall and the break is good but isn’t all that crisp maybe a 7/10 on my subjective crispiness scale. After the four coil tanfo spring install the break is more crisp for sure, I’d give it an 8.8/10, with a more defined wall and I’m seeing 4-5 oz heavier. I’m not noticing a difference in reset or DA pull on my gun. But in both of these guns this is for sure a worthwhile upgrade for what I like in a trigger. Out of curiosity I installed one of the cz sear springs into The Tanfo and it has a noticeably lighter trigger pull in sa maybe even more dramatic than 1/4 lb but no definite wall and a less crisp. I prefer it slightly heavier with crisper break. So it got its spring back and I’ll be ordering two more for the czs. A quick note on reset, years ago when I installed the parts in the 75, I didn’t like the feel of the reset either with the reduced power trs. CZC sold a heavy trs that is supposed to withstand breakage better and gives a snappier reset at the expense of reduced pull weight. I settled on the heavier trs spring and run a 13 lb hammer, now with the tanfo four coiler for the sear I’m at about 3.25 lbs SA. While this might be too heavy for some the gun feels more predictable and responsive. I may now drop to the 11 lb spring for the hammer and see if that might be the ideal combination. Thanks for the ideas.

it’s an indicator that the gun is undersprung. The problem that you can run into with an undersprung recoil system is battering of the slide and frame like Ronemus was seeing with his gun and talked about in his post earlier. As far as my gun goes, I think that it’s sprung properly for the typical factory whimp loaded 38 super that you find on store shelves today.