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At MPSA, it was stage 6, "Claustrophobic Aggression". The way it was described in the match briefing, after stepping into the shooting area, any steps outside the shooting area prior to "Range is Clear" would result in a PE. I know how this goes against the whole "freestyle" idea of USPSA, but there are plenty of standards stages that specify shooting boxes, reloads, etc. I was more curious about how you would be able to get a penalty for an action with no shooting (as pointed out by others in this thread).

Thanks for the clarification. If I'm done shooting and then step outside the shooting area to unload and show clear is that subject to a procedural at 10.2.9? I'm not sure how it could be since there's no shots fired. This particular stage ended with a target that required a lean, and the WSB stated "Competitor may not exit Area A during the Course of Fire". If a shooter takes the last target while falling out the shooting area then there is no penalty correct? The shooter will be outside the shooting area by the time they unload and show clear, but a procedural can't be applied for falling out the shooting area as they make their last shot?

Yes I should have clarified, USPSA.

At a match the other day, a stage description stated that the shooter may not leave the shooting area during the course of fire. I had never seen this before, and I couldn't find anything in the rule book to state one way or the other. This particular stage didn't leave any reason to leave the shooting area, so it didn't come up in my squad. But is this legal stage design? I've been under the impression that you were free to leave the shooting area in between shots.

I believe it's considered an ESP gun since IDPA does not recognize the custom shop as a manufacturer. So the bushing that's added is not SSP legal. When I started shooting IDPA I was told that there was a big issue made of this where the Accushadow was determined to be SSP illegal right before nationals some years back.

I've used fluorescent orange Testers modeling paint on front sights in the past. It's brighter than factory white, but it's nowhere near as bright as a fiber optic.

I ended up asking my AC about it and he forwarded the question to headquarters. They confirmed that it's legal as long as the gun fits the box and makes weight. I'll admit that I don't know how they come to that conclusion based on the allowed mods.

Thanks, and are these ruling published anywhere?

What does RACL stand for? I've seen it used a couple times and assume it's some NROI equivalent.

Right, it's not listed by name but "thumb shields" are allowed so I'm not sure. I guess I have to ask the AC about it directly, it's a shame that's it's so ambiguous.

Can anyone confirm that the GoGun *thumb rest [generic]* for the P320 is legal for ESP and fits in the box? I won't have access to a box until my next sanctioned match.

I also see M17 slides for sale for 450-500 which included barrel and recoil assembly so that might be a better option if you're just looking for an optics compatible P320 upper.

These are legal in USPSA production/carry optics? According to the rules I can replace the slide with one that has the same length, caliber and contour. The contour thing I don't get, these slides don't look like very much like the originals.

I used this stuff because I saw a tutorial online that called for it: Fundamental Rockhound Products: 1 lb 60/90 Coarse GRIT for Rock Tumbling polishing Rocks Silicon Carbide https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JTJEXDI/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_VLu.Cb3FR2Q12 I have no clue how it's measured, but I'm guessing that 60/90 means it's a mix of the two grits. It seems to work nice and is very aggressive.

No issue in ESP. I run it on my P320 in ESP and have been through a few equipment checks this year at sanctioned matches with no problem. As far as pros and cons, its all personal preference. I found it pretty rough on my hands at first, but I just knocked it down a bit with a diamond file until I got used to it. Then I just build up another grip module with a more aggressive texture.

I made the switch from CZ Shadows to P320s this winter. I'm able to shoot the P320's better due to the larger grip. The CZ's shoot flatter and have better triggers in my opinion, but that doesn't mean much if you cant hang on to the gun. However, a lot of people with small hands can get a nice grip on CZ's and have no issue there.

Providing an update to this in case anyone finds this thread down the road. I bought a Wolff spring for the XD 16 round 9mm magazine (part number 74121) and it fits the P320 mags perfectly. The spring itself is considerably shorter than the stock P320 springs but it is stiffer feeling than stock once installed. I think this is the route that I will go for refreshing these springs in the future.

I just got new holster in from RHT and thought to take a picture of it before I mounted it to my hanger. You should be able to see how much room you have for your grip. Its pretty generous.

What are people using for replacement mag springs for the P320 (standard 17 round magazines)? I read on an old thread that someone was using Springfield XD springs successfully, but on the Wolff website it looks like their XD and XDM magazines are the same thing. I'm trying to stock up on some replacements before major match season begins.

Thanks, that answered by question perfectly.

Does anyone run these mag pouches for production? https://benstoegerproshop.com/guga-ribas-universal-magazine-pouch/ They look like they check all the boxes for what I'm looking for, but I'm a bit worried about the size of the belt mount. I'm having a hard time picturing 5 of these pouches fitting on a belt. Can anyone provide the width measurement for this belt mount? Pictures of a production setup with these pouches would also be appreciated. Thanks!

This gets at the difference between IDPA and USPSA, and I think it answers the question why shooting one discipline doesn't do much for the other. Good sanctioned IDPA matches have a lot of challenging shots such as swingers, tight no shoots/hard cover, tough positions...etc. But the scoring system is such that the there is no incentive to tear these kind of stages down and risk 5 and 10 second penalties. It's more of a "if you can survive this stage by shooting it clean at any cost you still have a chance to win the match". And this strategy/mentality is what keeps a lot of a "master" class IDPA shooters in the C/D range at USPSA. That's not a knock on either discipline, I enjoy them both. Running through a ton of IDPA matches will translate into your USPSA shooting, but not necessarily in the way you hope.

Isn't Federal Syntec the 'official' match ammo and therefore excempt from chrono at USPSA majors? At least this is what I thought the case was at Nationals. That might also explain why they're not too concerned with FPS consistency. I saw an article with the 45 acp syntec offerings where certain loadings weren't making major PF out of a full size 1911 either

I shot this last weekend 22.46 time 16 alphas, 8 charlies 4.6304 hit factor This came out to 96.4% in production One thing that I ran differently from most of the shooters is that I ran the second string starting from the right side. As a rightie this allowed me to transition to weak hand and be in a better position to face the targets as I get into the left side box. The reload going from right to left is trickier but I think it paid off more than if I ran everything from left to right

The X five is legal for ESP, and is pretty popular. However, the M17 is SSP legal out of the box. Keep in mind though that putting a grayguns trigger kit into it would bump it to ESP as well