[Lone Star Innovations]

Glenn is a stand up business man and awesome gunsmith. You're making a solid choice.

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[Eye dominance and Handed shooting]

18 hours ago, Localizer said:

I am right handed but very strongly left eye dominant.

 

I shoot left handed for rifle shooting (hunting & competing).

 

I was advised to compete RH for pistol shooting since I can bring the sights up to my left eye.  I also notice that a lot of my speed issues and inability to call shots are because of my natural tendency to attempt to align sights to my right eye.

 

During practice yesterday I noticed two things help me with sight tracking & shot calling:

 

1.  Turning my head or body 45deg to the right of the target helps me align sights to my left eye.

 

2.  I can exaggerate head position to bring sights up to my left eye.

 

What do y’all think? Continue with some form of the workarounds above or do like rifles shooting and go leftie and overcome the week-hand issues?

 

Thanks again in advance.

 

Do you have experience shooting pistol and if so what hand were you using before? Don't switch. Being left handed if that is what you're used to for other shooting types isn't a detractor. Yeah some holsters are harder to find but that is about it. 

[Eye dominance and Handed shooting]

DON'T SWITCH HANDS! DON'T DO ANYTHING CRAZY!

 

All you need is reps to develop your natural index....Just up your dry and live fire, draw to one shot and live fire pair until it is instinctual. Where is Tim Herron when you need him. 

[Eye dominance and Handed shooting]

I am left handed but right eye dominant. This problem is really not as complicated or debilitating as people think.

 

It will take reps and time for your natural index to develop and be quick, make no mistake about it but it is not bad at all. Make your draw to one shot part of your daily dry fire and you won't even notice in a few weeks as it will be natural. Do that drill for 3-4 minutes straight daily. I promise you will see any hesitancy go away.

[Hammer falling to half cock damaging sear]

On occasion, not everytime, when I manually rack the slide the hammer will fall into half cock and is damaging my sear. What could be the cause of this? Does not happen in live fire on manually racking the slide on occasion.

 

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[Member who does grip work]

I've done it for my 2011,  shoot!

[Force speed to be fast]

Have you listened to Steve Anderson's podcast on speed mode? It gives good ideas and insights into this training idea.

The idea is to give up paying close attention to your accuracy but work on speed solely. Then as you get used to that speed and it becomes the new normal, accuracy will start becoming more prominent as it becomes routine.

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[Can't seem to get rid of sympathetic strong hand tensioning with trigger pull]

This is THE most common problem in shooting. There is physiologic reason for it. The hand is wired to either make a strong grip (like gripping a hammer) or precise grip (like making jewelry, writing or in this case trigger pull) . It is not wired to do both at same time. Yes you can overcome this with tons of practice or any of the methods described in this topic,  BUT the easiest way to do this is totally relax the strong hand. This means virtually all the grip is done with off hand.  Strong hand only fine tunes sight picture and is loose to allow precise trigger control.To do this you need to actively engage the thumb on weak hand.

Funny you say that because that is exactly how I am retraining my grip. Still working on it. But it is becoming more natural but it's absolutely still in its infancy.

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[Can't seem to get rid of sympathetic strong hand tensioning with trigger pull]

 Try using one of those grip strength devices but don't use index finger, if you can practice squeezing that without moving your index finger in theory you should be able to shoot without pulling the sights. i used to have this same issue and this worked for me.

I'll try this as well. Thanks!

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[Can't seem to get rid of sympathetic strong hand tensioning with trigger pull]

21 hours ago, Lastcat said:

Check this podcast by Hwansik Kim.

 

Analysis of Performance

 

He talks for one about grip. How he is very light with palm side to side grip and mostly front to back grip. He talked about gripping as hard as you can until the sights/dot moves, then just relax till things are stable, that's his grip. I tried this and it works great. I slow fire at 10 yards and watch my dot (Czechmate). It will most of the time come back to where it started, without me having to pull it back down. Get that slow fire practice going then speed up. Front to back grip, light on the palm grip.

 

21 hours ago, Blackstone45 said:

I get this too with my support hand (left hand) sometimes pulling my sights left when I'm gripping particularly hard. I think it may be caused by you gripping TOO hard, relative to your maximum grip strength.

 

I think relaxing my strong hand grip would help to solve this problem theoretically but that's another aspect that I have been struggling with. 

I suppose what I really need to do is, like you said Lastcat, is start from the basics and rebuild it from the groun up doing it correctly. That podcast episode by Kim was great as well as the one with Eric Grauffel (spelling?). I also had listened to the shoot fast podcast where Joel Park has talked about having to relax his strong hand as he was having the same issue. I was wondering if there were other ways to potentially train it out without starting from the ground up, but it seems not.

[Can't seem to get rid of sympathetic strong hand tensioning with trigger pull]

3 minutes ago, thouston406 said:

EDIT TO TITLE: I meant to say Can't seem to get RID OF sympathetic strong hand tensioning with trigger pull.

 

and to add....I am left handed and this is causing my sights to move and throw shots to the right when shooting at speed. I can pull the trigger and not disturb sight picture/ alignment fine but when I get into a match and start rocking and rolling I go back into the old habit for some reason.

Fixed.

[Can't seem to get rid of sympathetic strong hand tensioning with trigger pull]

EDIT TO TITLE: I meant to say Can't seem to get RID OF sympathetic strong hand tensioning with trigger pull.

 

and to add....I am left handed and this is causing my sights to move and throw shots to the right when shooting at speed. I can pull the trigger and not disturb sight picture/ alignment fine but when I get into a match and start rocking and rolling I go back into the old habit for some reason.

[Can't seem to get rid of sympathetic strong hand tensioning with trigger pull]

For the life of me I cannot seem to train out of my strong hand the tensing of my entire hand when pulling the trigger. It has been my biggest problem in shooting and I always overcame it by support hand grip pressure instead of solving the problem. Does anyone have any advice/exercises/drills that can help train out this bad habit?

[How's my presentation?]

 
Stop.
Just stop this, dear entire internet.
 
Please.
 
This isn’t the Delicate Gun-Owning Flower’s  forum on Facebook.
 
We believe you’re a mature adult, with no need to be swaddled in a safety diaper while he handles firearms.
 
The fact that everyone on YouTube feels an obligation to show a clear gun at length in every video is very depressing. Common sense implies it will be unloaded. If you’re dumb enough to handle it loaded, well, that’s your personal choice. And we get some very entertaining video out of it. [emoji3] 
 
 

Hear hear

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[How's my presentation?]

I've been thinking about the boss hanger. I have my first match in January so trying not to buy too much before I have experience to know what I need/want.

One thing that I've improved a lot on is that I now get a consistent grip with every draw. I struggled with this a bit early on. Repetition is paying off here.

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Yeah so if you get your support hand there faster and get your full grip you can start prepping the trigger faster...you shouldn't have the problem of ADing with that DA first pull dry firing and getting it down will prevent any of that.

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[How's my presentation?]

First I would suggest getting a dropped and offset or at least a drop for that holster. Check out the boss hanger.

Second if you tilt the holster back as in like this \ instead of like this / it will be easier to get your grip and not have to chicken wing your arm out so much.

Third. Get your support hand there sooner so you can have that grip established and start prepping your trigger sooner.

Doing good though! Keep it up!



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[Right side mag release in a limited 2011]

Interesting...So if you were using other magazines you would have to notch them yourself. 

 

The Mitchell though makes it so you wouldn't have to notch the other side of mags am I understanding that?

 

[Right side mag release in a limited 2011]

Can someone describe to me how the SVI grip does the right side mag release? Is the slot for the mag catch just on the other side?

 

Edited by Grumpyone to remove WTB reference.

[Seeking Comments - Handgun Grips]

I've also recently been listening to all of these, what seems to me, new ideas on grip. It is making me reassess and rebuild grip and I'm excited to see what it produces.

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[thoughts on second shot always to the left]

Could be a few things. Is this only happening at speed? You could be tensing your whole hand when trying to shoot quickly which causes your shots to he pushed left for righties and right for lefties. I have been guilty of doing exactly this and found it during Vogel's world class pistol course.

The other thing you might be doing is attempting to look over your sights to see the target to look at your hits. This will be prominent when you get close and that is increasingly possible.

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[My first Limited build. Suggestions? Planning/Log/ect]

11 hours ago, AndyG said:

Long story short. I've got a local gunsmith that's going to fit the barrel slide and frame and I'm going to try to do the rest of the work with some help from a family member. Looking for suggestions on parts. Eventually I'd like to turn this thread into a build log and update it a long the way. Right now im in the research stage of my build but I think I have a few things figured out:

 

Caspian 5" slide

Bar-Sto 5" bull barrel

Pheonix trinity frame

Polymer grips ( planing on an evo )

Egw ignition kit

Caspian extractor

SV medium flat trigger

SV extra wide ambi

FGW grip plug

 

This is what I'm thinking so far just throwing it out there for advice or things you all have learned in your experiences building on the 2011 platform. Gonna piece it together slowly and availability on a lot of the parts I'd like is hit and miss. I'd rather have a Schumann/SV 5" bull barrel but no one has them. PT is currently 6-8 weeks out on frames and is working from a list. 

 

Kind Regards, 

AndyG

 

Here is my parts list for the most part for my build. There have been a few changes but that's it. This also isn't including buying tools for fitting but I did my fitting myself. the gun runs great and shoots extremely well.

 

2011 build parts list.xlsx

[Empty or loaded mags during dryfire?]

I do not have dedicated dry fire mags. Not richy rich enough for all of that. Just like IHAVEGAS said. summed it up

[Empty or loaded mags during dryfire?]

I load the same rounds on my press just without primers and powder for my dummy rounds and leave them in their own area and never mix them with live ammo but of course check them all prior to loading anyway.

[Empty or loaded mags during dryfire?]

Definitely load the mags with dummy rounds, preferably ones with brass casings instead of like snap caps. The weight does matter and makes a difference.

[Laser assisted dry fire]

I could see it being at least somewhat worthwhile in that accord if you combined it with a laser training program.

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