Actually, I know someone who shoots the Limited Custom for IDPA, It's the Elite Stock II that has that illegal barrel. Actually you are correct, Cone can only be 4.25 inches long for ESP.....I forget.....maybe the Witness II???? Hmmmm. I could swear he shot that Limited Custom.....maybe he is not legal then.....Tanfoglio: so many cool guns, none of which I can use......They will probably not be on my list then....