I'm in Canada were everything is ten rounds. Production Optics seems to be gaining in leaps and bounds here, in spite of the magazine limits. I think the eyes thing is a big part of it, especially where about five months of the year is indoor shooting in crappy indoor light. Also, I think many are looking at it as almost an Open Light division, where you can shoot quite a bit faster without having to drop 14 grand on an Open gun. I actually got cometely out of Open and went to Production Optics (Prodopen?). It's definitely a lot less hassle for me.