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  1. I don't care what the PD uses, but the gun buying public and 95%+ of the PDs want 9mm. It doesn't make sense to have the most popular caliber in the world (not changing in your lifetime) to have a scoring disadvantage in USPSAs most appealing division. Production lost its "production" years ago. It makes sense to toss the whole 'production list" nonsense as well as the few rules we have left keeping it from being limited minor...and just make it limited minor. Similarly, carry optics is slowly becoming limited minor with an optic...so lets just do it and simplify that whole mess also. In the end it is simpler and more people get what they want.
  2. If I remember correctly, most of the rules changes have been geared towards making production and carry optics what people actually want (limited minor and limited minor with optic essentially) and some standardization (holsters/pouches). Limited has been stable for a while and has most of what everyone is after except this built in scoring error favoring downloaded .40 that forces people to buy guns and reloaders that they wouldn't get otherwise. The problem is they are trying to get where they know we are going incrementally instead of just tearing the bandaid off. Once we/they quit listening to people that have an unhealthy fear of change...the rules probably will settle.
  3. Great idea. Imagine how popular USPSA would be today if they just set in stone 30 years ago that it was for .45 acp 1911s only.
  4. They were able to train us all to shoot the .40 at the FBI and HRT is fine with 9mm but they don't use it as testosterone replacement therapy. How many years did you spend in the field before you moved to IT?
  5. I am talking about USPSA and specified USPSA. The results for USPSA that get quoted here on a regular basis, and can be found on the internet, do not support your assertion in the slightest way. Major dominates minor in USPSA limited.
  6. It isn't bait, how does it affect you if there is a separate limited minor division? What problem does it cause? Having built in scoring disadvantages in the same division is not a stable framework. There is no competition if the formula makes over half of the participants in a division non-competitive. You can buy a 515 cc driver or a 320 cc driver...each time you hit the ball with either it counts as a stroke. 250cc motorcycles don't race 450cc motorcycles in motocross and only get 90% credit for each lap completed. You don't pair heavyweight and lightweight boxers and give the lightweight boxer 90% credit for the punches he throws. Etc etc etc.
  7. You are cherry picking, major beats minor in limited 95%+ of the time. I think people in limited minor that beat other people in limited minor won't win because of an error in the scoring formula...that is what matters.
  8. It isn't working as designed because it was supposed to be a choice. The disadvantage in scoring was supposed to be able to be overcome with speed/accuracy. We all know this isn't true as is (those of us that are honest). As it is now, you don't have a choice...you have to shoot major. It was working more like it was designed when major pf was 175. Would work even better at 185. We can simply create divisions that make sense. Limited minor makes more sense than production, single stack, and revolver from a market and participation perspective. Propping up downloaded .40 cal makes less sense from every angle. When limited minor gets added, you will be free to participate in that or any of the other divisions available that might make you feel special at the time.
  9. Do you think it is good to have all of those beginners, recreational shooters, and whatever else they get called in limited division to make your finish look better? Why else would you feel so strongly that they stay in the oh so competitive limited division? I am not sure who you are referring to exactly but I agree that someone who would advocate a rule where minor power factor had a permanent disadvantage in a division (or not fixing it once known) doesn't know a whole lot about making rules. Same could be said about a person advocating a rule not having a limited minor division when 95% of new handguns sold are high capacity 9mms...as opposed to .40 S&W that the men shoot (downloaded of course).
  10. Probably wishful thinking on your part but yes, time will tell.
  11. I don't need to find them for you, if you get out of the house you will find them. It seems they send a significant number of letters to the USPSA as well. Hate to be blunt but ultimately the rules will change again and the momentum is going towards all minor except for open despite the nonsensical objections of those who see a separate limited minor division as a threat to their manhood.
  12. Completely wrong. Most people don't want to shoot production just like they don't want to shoot 10 rd carry optics or buy a .40 caliber gun for that matter.
  13. USPSA doesn't understand those competitors either which is why they continue to force them into participating in a division that props up .40...a caliber that a resounding majority of the gun buying public and law enforcement/military have no interest in. It couldn't be more obvious that limited minor has the demand/interest to become the largest/most popular division...even with carry optics...but they refuse to split it out because....STUBBORN.
  14. We already have a rule: 5.1.6 Firearms must be serviceable and safe . Range Officers may demand examination of a competitor’s firearm or related equipment, at any time, to check they are functioning safely. If any such item is declared unserviceable or unsafe by a Range Officer, it must be withdrawn from the match until the item is repaired to the satisfaction of the Range Master. Any gun that has a firing pin that is forced to protrude through the breech when the hammer is lowered is not safe. Conversely, any firearm that has a firing pin so long that it props the hammer back due to contact with the primer when a round is chambered is also not safe. Intelligent/educated people have known for over a hundred years that resting the hammer/firing pin on the primer of a chambered round was not safe which is why single action revolvers were carried with an empty chamber and most subsequent guns were designed with inertia firing pins. Doesn't matter if the occurrence is rare or we have been lucky so far...firing pins this far out of spec should be forbidden....just like thumb safeties are required to be used on guns so equipped even if we most likely would rarely have an accident if they weren't used.
  15. Exactly. CZ and other manufactures use inertia firing pins for a good reason (this very reason). Wouldn't surprise me if we have improper mods that need to be addressed before we start pointing fingers at the rules or the manufacturers.
  16. Yes, the trigger being inertia fired would have to happen when the hammer was cocked. You can't get reliable ignition from full hammer travel when you start going too low on the hammer spring...the chances of the firing pin bouncing against spring pressure and firing the pistol from a 3-4 foot high fall are statistically impossible in my opinion.
  17. If the gun was modded in such a way that it allowed it to fire when dropped on the hammer outside the holster, then it would just as easily fire if the holster fell off of the belt and it landed in the same manner. I seriously doubt the gun fired as a result of a fall on the hammer and think it being dropped during the stage, before the hammer was lowered, or maybe he tried to catch the gun when dropped and inadvertently fired it to be more likely...but I guess we won't know for sure unless the whole story comes out.
  18. A stock CZ is VERY safe with the hammer FULLY lowered on a live round. Why design the gun with a double action first pull if the gun was not designed to be carried with a round in the chamber???
  19. When the hammer is fully lowered it doesn't rest on the firing pin, it rests on the slide. A fully lowered hammer on a STOCK DA/SA CZ is the most safe hammer position. Yes, the firing pin will be pushed against the lowered hammer under spring tension but the hammer cannot transfer energy independently to the firing pin because of contact with the slide. The half cock is DESIGNED to catch the hammer if the full cock notch is broken. If you carry a non firing pin block CZ around on half cock it is more dangerous than the fully lowered hammer because if the hammer is broke free of the half cock notch it could in theory apply force independently to the firing pin which would be protruding from the back of the slide. Firing pins don't inertia fire when dropped on the butt...only muzzle down. However, triggers can be inertia pulled when the gun is dropped on the butt from sufficient height. That height is reduced when you start lightening springs.
  20. Limited minor makes more sense than any other division we currently have or that people are dreaming up. You can compete with affordable 9mm factory ammo with any 9mm double stack pistol (which is about 80+% of the handguns sold currently) modded in almost any manner that you like without requiring hundreds/thousands of dollars in optics/optics ready options and reloading equipment. This division should not only be made competitive, but it should be the center of the sport and if we had it we probably wouldn't have to bother with most other divisions if their eventual death was the mitigating factor.
  21. How is it a good example of that when it consistently has the lowest participation? How many new competitors are going to flock to USPSA to reload 38 short colt in a revolver? Participation is growing in 140mm+ mag divisions where commercial 9mm ammo is not at a scoring disadvantage. Not a coincidence.
  22. Single stacks have a place to compete...they have a whole division of their own plus can shoot in limited, limited 10 and open. Why do we need to change production to accommodate people who already have their own division plus 3 more options? If you don't like your division, then buy the right gear and pick another division to compete in. If you need to see how you did against a deeper field you can sort practiscore and compare against anybody you want to. Since some single stacks can shoot major, it makes no sense to combine them with production.
  23. Agreed. In addition to that, the power factor for major has dropped from 185 to 165 (so much for manning up and going to the gym) so the scoring bonus for shooting major is way too generous for the negligible difference in recoil and capacity. It is a game with rules that don't make sense in some cases. The rules have been changed almost every year since inception so why would they stop now? Baffles me why some people are so intent on maintaining an obvious imbalance in the rules.
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