So now that I've been convinced to try shooting at limited (h/t to Hi Power Jack), I'm trying to decide on a gun. I've shot a Ppq, Vp9, g19, and I'm shooting an M&P tomorrow. The new tp9sfx intrigues me for cost and features, but I've only handled (not shot) the tp9v2. I liked it. I handled a xdm and it really didn't feel good in my hand (couldn't easily reach the mag release). I like shooting the g19, but the mad release was a real pain to actuate. The vp9 was really nice to shoot, but I'm uncertain about that trigger guard mag release. I can get a blue label discount, so I'm a bit torn. Seems like g34 ($507) + extended mag release (25) + fo sights (100) + trigger connector/kit (18-150) is going to end up around 650-775, with a fair amount of time put into modding the gun. The ppq q5 is gonna be 750-800. So, when I look at the Canik, 550 looks pretty darn good. Does anyone want to argue for or against going the untested cheapy route? My other question was minor vs major--if I'm buying off the shelf ammo, how do I calculate whether I'm in minor or major territory--but I'll search the forums for that answer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk