I handled an S2 with the Apex kit installed at Apex's booth they had at a local gun shop's anniversary sale. The SA pull weight was just slightly lower than the DA on my uncalibrated finger, with a very defined wall, nearly 0 creep (almost imperceptible to mine and a friend's eye), and a crisp, clean break. It compared well to my S2 with some CGW parts dropped in, and my friend's S1 with a full CZC trigger job on it. Pull weight may have been higher but with the break so clean and minimal creep I didn't really care what it measured at.