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ecn515

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  1. Thumbnail is someone shooting a 1301 comp pro, opens with that shooter immediately having a ghost load. Lots of other video footage of it happening to different shooters all over YouTube if you look around. Just not something I see being discussed very often.
  2. Ghost loading is an issue with all the Comp Pro's. The new lifter and the nub on it is problematic. I pulled that lifter out and replaced it with an old style plain lifter and it solved the ghost loading. Also tried the new lifter in one of my original 1301's and they began ghost loading. Problem isn't unique to the J Kenny is all I'm saying. Good idea, poor execution.
  3. Get a long tube, like 15rds in the gun to start, and learn how to quad load. If you are proficient with that set up it will take you a long way. The speed loading sticks really aren't any faster than quads if you are good. I've shot a lot of head to head matches against guys with speed sticks and just loading my TO gun by hand and frustrated many of them. Most stages these days you won't see shotgun round counts above 15, and if you do it's not by much. A quad or two maybe. At major matches obviously the box fed guys will have an advantage over you on stages that are 40+ rds, but that's a very small portion of all the shooting you'll see. Additionally a lot of box fed guns have PROBLEMS. If your m2 runs, that's already an advantage in open. If/when I move to open I will continue to shoot my 1301 and just load it all the way up and put a dot on it until that become a limiting factor.
  4. Not an open shooter myself, but I have seen many doing exactly what your asking about. Lots of romeo 5's, vortex crossfires, and even a few MRO's floating around on 45° mounts. They all seemed to use them just fine.
  5. Make sure you do not get any oil on your piston or in the piston chamber. Honestly, don't even clean it at all. I shot a 1301 HEAVILY for 2 years without touching the piston and had no issues. If you get oil in the piston it will take a long time to get it all out and get the shotgun reliable again.
  6. Have you considered an original 1301 Comp (non pro)? As someone who has both, to me the Comp is the better gun and cheaper as well. Perhaps worth a look if you want to save some money and still get a great shotgun.
  7. You're probably best served just asking Lena herself, just reach out on your preferred social media and I'm certain she'd be glad to help. Hell, I'm tempted to screen shot your post and ask on your behalf. Also, most tubes will do what you're asking about. I've had Nordic, Roth, and Briley tubes that I've used on shotguns with extensions I remove to fly with.
  8. @TonytheTiger the selling point for those is the light weight and accuracy. For about half the price you can get a PREMIUM conventional barrel that is lighter and shoots just as well. Personally I have gone over to JP ULW barrels, but even cheaper than that price point there are so many great barrels on the market today. There's just no value in a near $1k barrel that does the same things as everyone else, but wrapped in Carbon Fiber. I'm happy with mine, I'm glad I have it and have experience with the barrel. Now I can write the concept off and advise anyone who ask about the topic to skip it.
  9. I've had a 16" Proof barrel installed in one of my main match rifles for over two seasons now. I can't begin to imagine how many thousand rounds and matches I've shot with it. As it's older, it's the older mid length gased barrels they used to produce. Still shoots essentially the same as when I first installed it as far is I can tell, easily sub MOA with all ammo I put on paper. Additionally I've never seriously cleaned it, im not big into cleaning barrels I'm just one of those shooters. I dont think the barrel is any more or less durable than any of the rest of my stable, so I'm not sure what your issue may be. Perhaps just a lemon. But for what it's worth I would never buy another proof barrel for 3 gun or recommend that anyone else does either despite the fact I've had zero issues with mine.
  10. Either I am misunderstanding your post, or you are mine. Both shells go fully into the magazine tube, and only the second (last) shell into the tube is then released into the receiver onto the lifter to be fed. It is not an issue of the shells being completely released as if you fully released the shell catch (al la the gen 1 bolt release.) As I stated in my original post the issue seems to be that you can activate the shell catch by pressing down on it, usually happens as a byproducts of quad/twin loading. I'm not the first to have this issue, nor am I new to the platform. I've been using 1301's extensively for the last 6 years. I tried swapping out a multitude of different springs and parts to get my comp pro to stop ghost loading with no changes to the issue. When I put the comp pro trigger group with the new lifter into my original 1301 the ghost loads followed. As soon as I put an original (non hold down) lifter into the pro the issue stopped completely. Perhaps if you aren't using this shotgun for gun games, this is a non issue. But if that's the case I'm not sure why you would buy the model specifically designed for competition instead of on of the several geared more towards the tactically inclined crowed like the 1301 Tac of the new Langdon model.
  11. I'm that shooter. I have 2 original 1301 Comps (pre SN move and w/o extended factory lifter) and picked up a Comp Pro over the winter. The Pro CONSTANTLY ghost loaded when quad loading or even when my GF loads 2's. I tried a new shell latch and many other things. I surmise that the largest factor at play is the new lifter. With it being held down the shell release is not only more exposed and prone to being hit, but it is also less supported and and be pressed straight down and will trigger a shell to kick out onto the lifter. I tried contracting Beretta but they basically told to me to get lost and send my gun to a Smith on my own dollar because they aren't accepting guns due to COVID. I purchases a new original extended lifter and swapped that into the pro. Gun works fine now. Second issue is the new handguard. It doesn't fit snuggly to the receiver at all. I tried tapering and shaping in down with a Dremel but it still doesn't fit great and constantly knocked shells out of my hand when quad loading. At the end of it I kept on shooting my Original Comp due to the issues I was having and once my Pro was finally shorted out my GF started using that. She prefers a shorter stock, so off came the Mega Kick Off + and on went an original stock. Also I hate the new bolt release design, so I'll probably swap that out for an original at some point. I've been using 1301's for about 6 seasons now, honestly sage yourself the money and just get one of the updated Origional Comps and swap in/out parts to your liking is my suggestion. Unless you absolutely have to have the blue gun...
  12. Well 3 gun is expensive, by nature, and everyone is trying to cut corners and save cost. Everyone. Further this is a thread with BUDGET in the title, so yes, apparently we are considering cost here. A 1301 comes more set up than an m4 out of the box for much cheaper. The aftermarket isn't there for m4's either. Last time I looked there were hardly any tubes available let alone any that actually got you to around 12rds again for a relatively reasonable price. Now the issue of Benneli vs Beretta as a whole is an entire different discussion. The m2 is wildly popular, for many reasons. I actually have both an m2, a 1301, and a 1301 comp pro. But again that's a completely different topic than what's been asked here. As for my friends, largely they are civilians, some are Marines, and others serve in different branches/departments, which is unimportant. What is important is that they are all experienced shooters who looked at all the options and made their own choices, all of them again not choosing the m4. Lastly my opinion of these guns is mine alone, I was simply sharing with you that I have many years of experience both in competition and military service with ALL of the guns I've mentioned. I've made my choice for sport as have many others and largely it isn't the benelli m4. My opinion and the opinion of others is only worth what you make it but whoever told you that the m4 is the choice for action shooting hasn't used one either very much or very seriously.
  13. I've been shooting 3 Gun for years all over the country and I've not seen more that 3 or 4 total m4's at all of those matches combined, and always in the hands of someone newer/less competitive. Meanwhile, you see 1301's all over at nearly every match with many of them being used by the better shooters at a match. And they're a fraction of the cost of m4's... Furthermore as a Marine I have lots of experience with Benelli m1014's and yet myself and nearly all of my friends use Berettas.
  14. Who cut your port? ...or is that a home done job?
  15. The new latch doesn't allow you to use it to release shells from the tube. Some people hated the old latch and went so far as to call it a 'fatal flaw.' I've been shooting a 1301 for 4 very busy years now and never accidentally released shells, I actually like the feature of the original latch as it makes unloading after a stage a breeze.
  16. Well I've had my 1301 Comp Pro for about a week now. I put a few rounds though it, but just plinking as it still needs it's port cut. Which brings me to the fact the loading port is about the same as the original Comp, but it does seem a bit more open, definitely needs work though. I have a mega kick off stock on my 1301 comp so the pro with it's plus stock feels about the same. Although the pro did come with a 1" spacer installed on it's kick off plus stock so out of the box it's aggressively long. I can also confirm that the new comp pro trigger group fits in the original 1301 if you want to go that route. I haven't stripped them completely apart to check individual parts though. If anyone has any specific questions about how the pro is or how it compares to the original I'm happy to field them.
  17. I'll be picking my Pro up sometime this week. I have two original 1301 C's I can compare against that I've been shooting for the past 4 years. I'll likely get it out on the range this coming weekend and will report back.
  18. Any updates at all? Round counts? Buckshot required? Slings? Schedule/squad matrix? We're about 8 days out and haven't heard anything. Need to start prepping.
  19. Thanks for your input. I've been shooting 3 Gun for about 4 years now. Most of that time with a 1301, so I've got plenty of experience just none of it with inertia guns. I'd agree the biggest thing pulling me towards the m2 over the breda is the comfort tech and the ability to set it up a little more personally.
  20. I've recently found myself in need of a new scatter gat due to an unfortunate happenstance. Luckily though I also picked up a Roth Performance receiver off a prize table the same day I broke my current shotgun. I'm just trying to decide between building up an m2 or a b12i with the new receiver so I'm looking for pros and cons from people who have experience with both. Up to now all I've ever shot is a 1301 so I have no experience with either gun. It's also worth mentioning that I'm a lefty so to set up a m2 it would cost a bit more for stock parts to set it up for me.
  21. Mine was opened up by RCI almost two years ago. Only cleaned once a year, thousands upon thousands of rounds through it. Still looks great, can't really recall any malfunctions in the past two years either.
  22. No clue on the barrels. But I'm tempted to say yes since the 1301 us really just a spec'd out 400. Most every other part is interchangeable so it would stand to reason that the barrels would be too. Only thing to consider is the barrels are so astronomically expensive that at that point you might as well just buy a different gun for a few more dollars...
  23. Any A400 stock should mount up just fine. There are tons of A300 stocks as well. I put an A400 Mega Kick Off stock on my 1301, bolted right up.
  24. That's my dilemma, I also care about some of those things. This would be my 5th 1911 and I've very much grown to like an undercut frame and front strap checkering, which is also the hardest things to add on after the fact... Hence why the Gold Cup Trophy and PM9 have caught my eye.
  25. Have you considered a Knapp front sight? It's a stick on so it doesn't matter I'd your rib is already tapped or not. I've used one fore over a year now and have yet to knock it loose. Super bright and only visible when you mount the gun correctly. I'm a big fan.
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